Outdoorsman Posted September 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Ill check the floating on the barrel but it was clear by a mile, the screws were tightned even, at first i thought the scope was goosed but thats brand new with the gun and the gun is always transported in a padded hard case, the ammo is the same batch as the others i shot the original group with i even checked the mod just in case so it has to be the stock in my eyes its the only thing it can be unless any one else can think of anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outdoorsman Posted September 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 The diffrence was litrally that drastic it was shocking and i did not think the stock fit would make that much diffrence thats why i started the post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a303 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Where would one purchase the materials to do a glass bedding job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) Where would one purchase the materials to do a glass bedding job? I got my devcon from Cromwell tools (work account ) aluminium pillars you can source from bay or search for alli tubing on net, but may need machining Edited September 29, 2015 by Dougy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Sav its a cz 455 thumb hole varmit .17hmr, like i say within the first 30 shots out of the box it was doing groups smaller than a 5pence piece if i knew how to upload photos from my iphone i would post them they were beautiful groups but now its horrible litrally the only thing thats change is the fact i removed it from the stock thats all it can be Just a thought. How many rounds through it total have you shot? One thing you will notice with some HMRs is that (being a small calibre) when copper build up starts, they will string cold shots all over the place until the barrel gets hot. This is an obvious sign for cleaning using a copper remover. Have to do mine every 100 rounds or accuracy goes off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outdoorsman Posted September 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Ill give her a clear aswell its had a 110 in total but i did clean it with a bore snake after the first 40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Ill give her a clear aswell its had a 110 in total but i did clean it with a bore snake after the first 40Bloomin eck, 110 shots and no copper remover! Lol :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I never used to bother UD, but in my barrel, what little build up there is definitely affects groups once past 100 or so rounds, even though it gets a dry patch or boresnake through after every outing, hence the question. Its a small calibre and it doesn't take much build up. If I leave mine past that, it can take a string of 10 or 15 shots before grouping starts to tighten up and that's just wasted ammunition. A quick clean though and it's back to being a tack driver. Not wanting to turn this into yet another cleaning debate, but worth a mention as there could be other reasons for the group issues. Chances are if its happened only since removing the action from the stock, then it is a bedding issue but a clean through wont hurt as it's an easy way to tick that one off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a303 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Isn't Decon a chemical metal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I never used to bother UD, but in my barrel, what little build up there is definitely affects groups once past 100 or so rounds, even though it gets a dry patch or boresnake through after every outing, hence the question. Its a small calibre and it doesn't take much build up. If I leave mine past that, it can take a string of 10 or 15 shots before grouping starts to tighten up and that's just wasted ammunition. A quick clean though and it's back to being a tack driver. Not wanting to turn this into yet another cleaning debate, but worth a mention as there could be other reasons for the group issues. Chances are if its happened only since removing the action from the stock, then it is a bedding issue but a clean through wont hurt as it's an easy way to tick that one off.Yes, thanks :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outdoorsman Posted September 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 If any one can tell me how to post pics from an iphone i will upload the photos of groups and the inlet on the stock see what people think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Down load the photo bucket app, up load pictures, copy and paste the link from your bucket account to here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Devcon Steel putty or Marine Rex and Arrcraglass gel are the best I've used all have their own advantages and disadvantages, but these 3 have very few disadvantages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a303 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Cheers guys, I already have devcon, what would you recommend for a release agent? Going to be bedding a Ithaca shotgun stock to recever as it has cracked which has been repaired but want to strengthen the stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I used kiwi boot polish, tbe neutral one. Put it on the action polish off put it on again do tbe same. And get some modeling clay for the voids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Kiwi boot polish works well, block of plastacine off ebay for the voids, mask up all areas you don't want ta get bedding on especially were it will ooze out onto edges of stock. Don't use original action screws, get some threaded bar of correct thread and some nuts, cut to size and screw into action with a bit of release agent around thread. This makes it easier to drop action into stock when you have your bedding agent on stock, if the nuts get stuck the thread will come out of action or/and the protruding threaded bar is handy for a slight (or heavier) tap to get the whole thing apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outdoorsman Posted September 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Has any one used araldite or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 Has any one used araldite or not? Fister has raised one good reason the other you would need to add some fibres to give extra strength or the araldite will break up. It may last a long time with a rimfire but it doesn't with a centre fire from the one (222) I've re bedded for someone and it was a **** to dig out of the stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outdoorsman Posted October 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 I looked at that devcon in cromwells there was 3 diffrent types one sets in 5 mins i think that will be to quick to get stuff sorted is it also not super thick will, which one do you guys use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 H.I.S Lawson supplies the stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Cheers guys, I already have devcon, what would you recommend for a release agent? Going to be bedding a Ithaca shotgun stock to recever as it has cracked which has been repaired but want to strengthen the stock. Kiwi shoe Polish clear Bearing factors stock the agents required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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