Useless Keeper Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Hi I run a small shoot (badly) - 1,500 birds and we need to have a couple of let days to help towards the bills / beaters etc. When advertising these days, or discussing the price with potential Guns, should the cost include tips - for example 'Cost per Gun is £150 plus tips'? The reason I ask is that when we had a couple let days last year, no-one paid a tip, even though they enjoyed the day (and have booked again this season). Whenever I have been on a driven day, whether invited, or a let day, I have always given a tip which I thought was 'the done thing' or am I living in the past? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentos Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 I have not done driven for a long time, but I think the thing to do would be to explain the price is x plus tip for the beaters and then confirm what the expected tip is. When I did driven it was on that very basis cost per gun is x plus £20 tip for beaters. That way the guns know what the total cost is and what is expected of them, if they are not asked to provide a tip at the end of the day I can understand why they did not as they may have easily assumed beaters costs were being taken care of in the overall price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 It would be a very mean Gun indeed not to tip a 'keeper unless of course the day had gone badly. If this is likely to be a continuing problem just add the likely level of tip to the cost of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 I would put £ plus tip. I have only ever been to one driven day out of many that I have not tipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 blimey,costing is usually £x per bird to quote to guns.Tipping on driven is then ALWAYS in addition.......do you have your keeper line up at the end and hand over a brace..or even better pre-prepped birds in trays?If so it is the clear signal that this is the end of the day,shake keepers hand and slip him a few quid....minimum £20 for small day then more if bag goes above 75 birds........If you however advertise your shoot as a walkabout/walk up and £150 per gun then that is somewhat different??...If it is all driven then tipping is to be expected to cover keeper & beaters usually.When we have guest guns we make the host give their guest the heads up that the going rate is £30 for 1st 100 birds and bit more if they loved their day/bag gets above 150......typical tip is £40=£50 for a great day.........but this is fully driven/gun bus/snacks/full sit down cooked lunch and tea at end............... What size bag are you selling?Hiow have you arrived at £150 oer gun?is it driven?do you provide anything else...food/drink wise? As it is returning guns you have a bit of a problem as they will expect similar to last time,are you dooing anything differnet/do you have more beaters this year etc......... blunt way if you know shoot captain is tell him now,subtle way is present the bag at days end and have guns line up for their brace......all guns know what this means!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useless Keeper Posted November 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Thanks everyone - that's pretty unanimous then. The Guns get bacon / egg / sausage batches in the morning and soup, beer etc. for lunch. The bag on this particular day was 58 - 52 pheasants and 6 mallard. I'll make sure tips are included next year! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 When ever I have been on a bought day the guns captain collects the keepers tips and then hands them over. To not tip is pretty poor form. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eieieio Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 What is the etiquette for an organised rough day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john12 Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 When we took a driven day earlier in the season it said in the paper work that the tip was £20 per 100 birds but as we all had a good day more was given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 me and my mate get invited to a good partridge shoot, its only 1 day down near Kings Lynn, and we give head keeper £80 each. The way I look at it is, its only costing me that for a great day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 What is the etiquette for an organised rough day? £20 a day for the first 100 birds, same as driven. My beaters have a collection for the keeper on helpers day as a gesture of thanks. A A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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