Rachael the Sniper. Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Could anyone help me here. I can't seem to find anything online to help me. I got my FAC ☺ 5 months and 3weeks ago. I aquired for a 12 gauge and a hatsan .22. I failed on my land i had down to shoot on. Due to the small size and high population. I could only join a clay pigeon shooting club in order to receive my shotgun. They allow shotguns but not .22's.But They only allow .22 if you in an actual gun club. I have not been given my rifle, even though I paid for it. Do i have to wait a year or something first, then am I awarded it? In showing good behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footu Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Get round some farmers, get more permissions and reapply asap. Joining a target gun club won't help as a target gun and rabbit gun are very different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 You need to show good reason to own one. If your permission is unsuitable you will have to find another one. Or failing that you may have to join a rifle or Smallbore club,that will show good reason to own one,but the 22lr will only be listed on your fac as target so no expanding ammunition. Rifle wise a cz 452, 455 will be suitable for target and vermin if you get your fac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les*1066 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Could anyone help me here. I can't seem to find anything online to help me. I got my FAC ☺ 5 months and 3weeks ago. I aquired for a 12 gauge and a hatsan .22. I failed on my land i had down to shoot on. Due to the small size and high population. I could only join a clay pigeon shooting club in order to receive my shotgun. They allow shotguns but not .22's.But They only allow .22 if you in an actual gun club. I have not been given my rifle, even though I paid for it. Do i have to wait a year or something first, then am I awarded it? In showing good behaviour. Unfortunately, you could become a saint but if the police say that the land isn't suitable for .22rf use, then you will never get your rifle. There are only two ways to go:- 1). Find a permission that the police deem suitable for .22rf use. 2). Join a gun club. If you join a gun club and get your rifle, you still won't legally be allowed to shoot on any land unless it has been 'passed' - you can only use it for target shooting in a recognised club(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachael the Sniper. Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 You need to show good reason to own one. If your permission is unsuitable you will have to find another one. Or failing that you may have to join a rifle or Smallbore club,that will show good reason to own one,but the 22lr will only be listed on your fac as target so no expanding ammunition. Rifle wise a cz 452, 455 will be suitable for target and vermin if you get your fac. Thanks for the reply. My .22 Hatsan is sitting in a Gun shop now as i type with my name on it. Its difficult to wake up everyday and it not being in my Gun safe, tucked away beside my shotgun. My keys question is will it REMAIN there until i join a club. This makes me feel very sad. Because its needs loved and cleaned. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Thanks for the reply. My .22 Hatsan is sitting in a Gun shop now as i type with my name on it. Its difficult to wake up everyday and it not being in my Gun safe, tucked away beside my shotgun. My keys question is will it REMAIN there until i join a club. This makes me feel very sad. Because its needs loved and cleaned. Thanks. Is the hatsan an air rifle under 12ftlb. If it is you should be able to take it home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Your sgc shotgun certificate and fac certificate are different. One is brown and one is blue. When you say 22 is that for an air rifle sub 12ftlb that uses pellets,or do you mean a 22lr which is a Rimfire rifle that uses bullets ,for this type you need an fac certificate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) I suppose getting some more land or joining an airgun target club is the only option. Edited December 16, 2015 by Livefast123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Everyone ... please bear in mind the OP is in Northern Ireland, where everything is FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Everyone ... please bear in mind the OP is in Northern Ireland, where everything is FAC. Well spotted. On my phone so location didn't show. Ignore anything I have put as it only relates to England, sorry for the miss information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les*1066 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Thanks for the reply. My .22 Hatsan is sitting in a Gun shop now as i type with my name on it. Its difficult to wake up everyday and it not being in my Gun safe, tucked away beside my shotgun. My keys question is will it REMAIN there until i join a club. This makes me feel very sad. Because its needs loved and cleaned. Thanks. Go back to the shop, explain the situation and see if you can get your money back. They might withold a percentage, or they may just give you a total refund. Unless you ask, you'll never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachael the Sniper. Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Your sgc shotgun certificate and fac certificate are different. One is brown and one is blue. When you say 22 is that for an air rifle sub 12ftlb that uses pellets,or do you mean a 22lr which is a Rimfire rifle that uses bullets ,for this type you need an fac certificate. Hey. Thanks for the reply. My rifle is on this site i copied for you. Its an Air rifle. My licence is nor blue nor brown. Its black. http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Hatsan_Torpedo_150_Sniper_Vortex_Air_Rifle/3648 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachael the Sniper. Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Is the hatsan an air rifle under 12ftlb. If it is you should be able to take it home. Thanks for the reply. My rifle is 1250fp. Is that just over for me, here is my rifle. Should i return to the gun shop to discuss a change or something. Cant have my gun sitting in some shop in the Irish country side. http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Hatsan_Torpedo_150_Sniper_Vortex_Air_Rifle/3648 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Dog Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Don't want to sound harsh here but if PSNI are saying your land is not suitable for an air rifle then you don't really have "good reason" to have one on your FAC. As has been said above, get out and get some more permissions to shoot over more suitable lands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Thanks for the reply. My rifle is 1250fp. Is that just over for me, here is my rifle. Should i return to the gun shop to discuss a change or something. Cant have my gun sitting in some shop in the Irish country side. http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Hatsan_Torpedo_150_Sniper_Vortex_Air_Rifle/3648 It the shop/RFD/Whatever will not give you a rifle you have paid for ask them why and try and sort it. Gun laws in Ireland are somewhat different to here, so rather unknown to most here, me included. And that can't be right surely My rifle is 1250fp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachael the Sniper. Posted December 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Alright. I have been successful in taking my issue to my RFD. I got my deposit back and got it placed on a new shotgun. Oh Lord its amazing. I wish I could get my rifle but i need to join a gun club or aquire land. I collect my Gun tomorrow for Christmas! I shall upload a picture of it when aquired. Merry Christmas everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman1997 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Alright. I have been successful in taking my issue to my RFD. I got my deposit back and got it placed on a new shotgun. Oh Lord its amazing. I wish I could get my rifle but i need to join a gun club or aquire land. I collect my Gun tomorrow for Christmas! I shall upload a picture of it when aquired. Merry Christmas everyone. You are in NI same as me so we have it all on the one license/certificate for the lot. Its alot better in England i feel as you apply for the gun you are looking e.g. .22 air rifle on your license ("ticket") beforehand and are then told yes or no. Then you can go buy one. But over here you buy one and are then told a long time later that its no problem and its granted or sometimes your told you're not aloud it. Really annoying! I am assuming you are in town area. If there is country land near you all you would need to do is to get the permission of one or two farmers they are usually very nice about it and should have no problem with it. Alternatively if you know a farmer that would be handier to ask him. Permission on a decent size farm would also give you the option of bigger rifles like .22lr .17hmr and .223 etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the enigma Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Ask around at your clay club, I'm sure someone there would be able to point you in the direction of a friendly farmer, and maybe even put in a good word for you. It can be hard to get your foot in the door when a farmer doesn't know you personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Some good advice above but you might also need to change your PigeonWatch name as sniping with a shotgun is just not cricket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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