la bala Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 When space on my drive allows,another series will be there. Before someone else mentions it felly dont forget drip tray for drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 There is a dual carriageway being built across the road from us and the contractors have have loads of 4x4s on lease and they are either Hilux or l200s not a single land rover in sight, also none of the farmers on our shoots have them, all using rice burners and a new farm I have just got perm on uses an Amarok, where I live is semi rural but really don't see many land rovers at all. S This is spot on see it all the more these days, i think the welsh hill farmers were the first to see the light. Daihatsu fortraks were the tool of choice down there for a great many years, i dont go over that way much now, but bet there is still a good few about pulling livestock trailers etc. Landrovers kept a folowing built up at a time when there was only them about, as time went by japs got more common but the councils services organisations and the like stayed loyal , but by the early 2000s the wrtiting was on the wall the impracticality was starting to sink in people expected more even when at work. Think about it jumping out of a cortina in the early 1980s and into a 110 at work, was a lot less of a shock than jumping out of a Mondeo from 2001 into a defender . Ok we got power steering a torquey diesel 5 gears and coil sprung susspension but luxury we were lacking a lot in the landrovers for far too long. They had their day and they will be around for a long time to come on the strong classic scene, but as a proper 4x4 that has to do a real broad spectrum of work, at typical modern day working ranges they are just not practical anymore, many workers are not enthusiasts they want to go to work and be in a modern vehichle not be forced to take part in some insane historical re enactment just because there boss likes how they look on a wall poster, The boss will be in an X5 or TLC etc . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 Thought I'd post this as I know there a fair few LR owners on here. Just out of interest, and boredom, on the way home tonight we decided to count LR's v Landcruisers v Shoguns and other "full size" 4x4's. Shoguns = 3, 2 newish, 1 1990's Landcruisers = 0 Jeep = 2, newish Land Rovers = 31, 4 Gaylanders so shouldn't count those really, about 10 1990's Disco's, 2 old Defenders and the rest all newish. Few things spring to mind here, all the reliability stories you hear are now put into perspective, Japs are outnumbered 10 to 1, Toyota's never break down because there aren't any, and, Ain't Land Rover done well as a company Going to count the German 4x4's tomorrow so my passenger tells me Shouldn't take long :lol: Not really a fact, more an observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 This is spot on see it all the more these days, i think the welsh hill farmers were the first to see the light. Daihatsu fortraks were the tool of choice down there for a great many years, i dont go over that way much now, but bet there is still a good few about pulling livestock trailers etc. Landrovers kept a folowing built up at a time when there was only them about, as time went by japs got more common but the councils services organisations and the like stayed loyal , but by the early 2000s the wrtiting was on the wall the impracticality was starting to sink in people expected more even when at work. Think about it jumping out of a cortina in the early 1980s and into a 110 at work, was a lot less of a shock than jumping out of a Mondeo from 2001 into a defender . Ok we got power steering a torquey diesel 5 gears and coil sprung susspension but luxury we were lacking a lot in the landrovers for far too long. They had their day and they will be around for a long time to come on the strong classic scene, but as a proper 4x4 that has to do a real broad spectrum of work, at typical modern day working ranges they are just not practical anymore, many workers are not enthusiasts they want to go to work and be in a modern vehichle not be forced to take part in some insane historical re enactment just because there boss likes how they look on a wall poster, The boss will be in an X5 or TLC etc . . I am surprised the military have used them so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 I am surprised the military have used them so long. When you are as close to death as a lot of those brave souls are i supose loxury is a secondary issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 When you are as close to death as a lot of those brave souls are i supose loxury is a secondary issue. 1000s of military LRs never leave the Uk. At the end of the day this LR verses Jap is a matter of personal choice just like people follow a football team. I sometimes of late have been out rabbiting sitting in my LR with no window in drivers side feeling very cold, and have thought, I could be sitting here in a nice warm Jap truck, but to me it wouldnt be the same. I suppose thats where the term Land Rover nut comes from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 1000s of military LRs never leave the Uk. At the end of the day this LR verses Jap is a matter of personal choice just like people follow a football team. I sometimes of late have been out rabbiting sitting in my LR with no window in drivers side feeling very cold, and have thought, I could be sitting here in a nice warm Jap truck, but to me it wouldnt be the same. I suppose thats where the term Land Rover nut comes from. Been in the same possition many times myself used to run a series 2 with no door tops on rifle rests made to fit the door frame holes, LRs i feel are acceptable for this sort of thing, and they are not all bad news but i think the best way of looking at this in my case is i have outr grown them as they grew old. There is a lot out there these days which do a great job with more than acceptable refinement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 No secondhand market here for those good trucks then. The Jap stuff has a good export trade to Africa, the Landy's used to have the same but tastes change even out in the remote villages you will see jap trucks running, it would have been great if Land rover had kept up with the japs etc but I think they relied too much on their heritage to sell vehicles without making significant improvements to them. I sold an Hiace van to a lad who came up from London for it, when I asked what he was doing with it he said I will put it in a container with all his other stuff and another hiace and ship it to Nigeria where he was from, he paid 900 quid more than I did for it and I ran it for 2 years, he reckons he will make @ another £1000 selling it on out there. S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Before someone else mentions it felly dont forget drip tray for drive. Our old neighbours in the UK had an old Landy that was parked on the street outside their home. They move house about ten or twelve years ago, but you can still see the oil stain on Google Earth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Our old neighbours in the UK had an old Landy that was parked on the street outside their home. They move house about ten or twelve years ago, but you can still see the oil stain on Google Earth :lol: Nothing more to be said, thats awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Our old neighbours in the UK had an old Landy that was parked on the street outside their home. They move house about ten or twelve years ago, but you can still see the oil stain on Google Earth Ah yes, Landrovers 'Auto Oil Change' system ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) There are quite a few Landrovers around here; those farmers who still own them mostly have Defenders but the vast majority I would have to admit own Japanese 4 x 4s now. Saying that, locally even these are outnumbered by other Landrover models such as the Sport and Vogues. I think the 'luxury' market is is where Landrover score highest nowadays, with even the new model 110's getting a fair showing in the luxury market. I've lost count of the number of pristine 110's I've seen in the Lakes all kitted out with snorkels etc but which look as if they've never negotiated anything more trying than a kerb. A mate who owns a Range Rover Sport had to wait 18 months to take delivery but says it was worth it. He had a big 4x4 Merc' of some description prior to the Sport and says the Sport is the best he's owned. There are many more reliable, comfortable, economical and cheaper, and yes, even better vehicles around than the Defender, but love them or loathe them, there is nothing that matches the worldwide appeal of the iconic Landrover Defender, not anywhere. My nephew has a L200; it's a nice motor, but it wont look as good as my Landrover does at the same age. Edited March 19, 2016 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 I was only counting the workhorse Landys that I see, there are loads of Evoques, Sports and high end range rovers around here but I don't include those as I think they are just posers tools, also asked one of the lads on the road site I mentioned and he said there are 3 L/R 90s on lease to them but the lads don't really like them and they stay in the secure yard most of the time, that's why I never see them. S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted March 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Posers or not, they're making LR a lot of money and seem to be running rings round the japs now in sales over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) The sad part is all the hard work has been done for Land rover, to make the old defender the true off road legend it always claimed to be. If they just coppied the foers ibex it has everything going for it super strong safe body good ergonomics internaly so real full sized grown up can get the seats in a decent possition, and still use the best bits and pieces components etc from the LR story. One of these with a 2.7 teranno engine and box or a red top gear driven Daihatsu DL 2.8 in would be awesome i would have one. What a true landrover should be like should be the defender 2 a proper strong safe body and chassis. latter f8 four door comercials Edited March 20, 2016 by TONY R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Posers or not, they're making LR a lot of money and seem to be running rings round the japs now in sales over here. Around here they are definitely posers, and they are making Tata a shed load of money, just a thought my wife's boss had an evoque and it was in and out of the dealership several times in the first couple of months due to electrical probs, culminating in total electrical failure on a country road at night, she was not happy about that one, they took it back and replaced it with another which also had a few probs that eventually had to have a full rewire with [i think] stronger grade wire, this was on the early ones to be released. Still when shelling out that much cash you do expect it to work without issues. I just like getting in the Hilux and knowing when I turn the key it starts first time and goes where I need it to and without leaving an oil stain, we always had L/Rs on our farm maybe that's why I don't particularly care for them bad memories and all that. S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Don't really know to be honest, just a gut feeling they're growing too quickly. They're certainly only profit orientated and brand name doesn't come in to it. I think once the huge growth bubble has burst they'll make a quick killing by going bust. Hope not, but you never know. The brand is huge and despite the world trying to be greener, their products are still very much in demand. I hope not too and and pretty sure they'll be around for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 The brand is huge and despite the world trying to be greener, their products are still very much in demand. I hope not too and and pretty sure they'll be around for a while. You are probably correct, after all, some people still keep horses ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted March 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Ha ha, seems Toyota not so popular in Ozz as some would have us think :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) Ha ha, seems Toyota not so popular in Ozz as some would have us think :lol: They are not lovers they fell asleap they were that tired after repairing that fours land rover . :lol: Edited March 22, 2016 by TONY R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Brilliant! That's why i go both ways and have a LC & LR. I put a Disco Sport through its paces on Sunday morning. Other than ground clearance, quite impressed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted March 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 They are not lovers they fell asleap they were that tired after repairing that fours land rover . :lol: Yeah, that's why they have a Toyota duvet cover :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) Yeah, that's why they have a Toyota duvet cover :lol: Yeah I Know but they all work for mconell motors in wangatu junction NSW A LR Toyota And Nisaan dealership, they fixed the LR at their Toyota agencey Land rover were snowed under with broken down Land Rovers, all they had in at Toyota were the sing brothers 957 000 mile Avensis Taxi and a vallet becaus mrs coles aussie cattle dog Buster had spewed up on the back seat of the auris hybrid. As for shiela the new nissan parts receptinist well when her boyfriend finds out what she was doing with rex the sales manager. sparks will fly. :lol: OK Mtaking it a bit far now but heck it beats what the Eastenders writers can come up with and they are proffessionals you know like bodie and doyle OK ill get mi coat. Edited March 22, 2016 by TONY R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted March 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Very good here's another from an ozz off road site, what do you make of this one ? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted March 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Nothing to do with LR's but anyone remember this bloke ? Used to watch this without fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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