MC Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Evening Guys, Tonight I had a lesson with Tracey Dines at the Fennes at Braintree. Not really a lesson I suppose nore of a "Why can't I hit more?" On the whole she said that my mount, timing and movement were good. The one thing that lets me down is my hold position when calling for the clay. 99% of the times I miss is because I am holding the muzzles to high, Tracey said that I need to hold lower as it is easier to move the gun up than it is to move the gun down. A prime example of this is the short range rabbit they have there (for those of you that have shot it) I normally up til now hold the muzzles of my gun in line with the path of the Rabbit, Tracey got me to hold them a lot lower and come up to it. and although my way I didn't miss, her way they were balls of dust and to be honest it felt more natural and right. By starting high I end up shooting high, which now someone has said that to me it all fits into place The other thing she said was I must learn to trust my instincts as I get the correct lead picture almost every time and then question it in my head and move either further in front or miss behind. 99% of the time the gun is pointing correctly first time and rather than pull the trigger I hang on and make sure and that doesn't always work. It was an eye opener I will admit and was good because we had the entire ground to ourselves so I could stand any where to make the birds harder. I shot 125 clays and broke well over a hundred only dropping the odd one here and there, now all I need to do is put the theory into practice.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Sounds like a very worth while session then. Nice one. Still must arrange an hour for myself sometime. Was she patient? She'll need to be if i book a lesson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Evening Guys, Tonight I had a lesson with Tracey Dines at the Fennes at Braintree. Not really a lesson I suppose nore of a "Why can't I hit more?" On the whole she said that my mount, timing and movement were good. The one thing that lets me down is my hold position when calling for the clay. 99% of the times I miss is because I am holding the muzzles to high, Tracey said that I need to hold lower as it is easier to move the gun up than it is to move the gun down. A prime example of this is the short range rabbit they have there (for those of you that have shot it) I normally up til now hold the muzzles of my gun in line with the path of the Rabbit, Tracey got me to hold them a lot lower and come up to it. and although my way I didn't miss, her way they were balls of dust and to be honest it felt more natural and right. By starting high I end up shooting high, which now someone has said that to me it all fits into place The other thing she said was I must learn to trust my instincts as I get the correct lead picture almost every time and then question it in my head and move either further in front or miss behind. 99% of the time the gun is pointing correctly first time and rather than pull the trigger I hang on and make sure and that doesn't always work. It was an eye opener I will admit and was good because we had the entire ground to ourselves so I could stand any where to make the birds harder. I shot 125 clays and broke well over a hundred only dropping the odd one here and there, now all I need to do is put the theory into practice.. sounds like a job well done Martin, i often do the same out on the range with no-one else around, move a stand or station so as to toughen up the target add distance angle terrain and so forth, its worth while when you can, i like to study other shooters (good ones) noting stance aproach target read and break points, one of the strangest sights i see every time im out in a comp is this aproaching a staion to shoot with the squad of 5 or 6 as per usual, the last two guns are shooting, my party is talking joking ragging each other over the last missed birds, me and my buddy are usualy softky talking to each other about the target being shot, speed, distance, window, break point, critical point, he as a R/H me as a Lefty, up we go he or i run a good stand 10 x's , up come the other guys each one picking a different spot swinging irraticaly and comeing out with a 5/6/7 to the tune of "im not sure where to take those" , so many shooters take little or no notice of a shooter breaking birds well, where is he stood, how is he stood, where did he pick up the target, where did he break the target, all questions that should have been going through the mind of the next gun at bat, oh well B) Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 I think I will have to get me a lesson or two, otherwise I will end up getting left behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted May 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Pin, It wasn't particularly cheap but it was well worth it just for the odd pointer here and there. Tracey was very patient and most of the time just let me shoot and only pointed out something if I didn't correct it myself first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 I've had a couple of people recommended to me, so I will probably chase one of those up and see about getting something sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Go and see Tracey - it's the little professional tips you get that make hitting the target easier that really help. As Martin said, when I had a lesson with her she pointed out that my gun position when I called for the target was miles away from the kill zone and that what would have otherwise been a swattable target was then extremely difficult for me to hit. Also, the thing I found was that if positioned correctly you could afford yourself a lot of extra time on the target and not have to rush and fluster. To be honest it was all basic stuff (leaving you saying "ah but of course") but stuff you wouldn't think about unless you had been trained or taken a lesson from someone in the know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Martin, sounds good - how much was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted May 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Stuart, It was £50 an hour plus the clays and your cartridges so as I said not particularly cheap but well worth it. I would recomend her to anyone, as Mungler said it is the small pointers that are so obvious when someone tells you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Tracey and her partner Luke are a really nice couple, they've been around the Sporting scene for a long time, so Tracey should by now be a very experienced coach. Anybody serious about improving their shooting should have the odd lesson now and again, it's a bit like golf, bad habits can creep in so easily. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 Funny that, I had a lesson at my local ground yesterday and it made an immediate difference to the way I shoot and how many clays I hit. Just three simple tips (Foot/body position, pickup point and the way I swing) and suddenly I was knocking down almost every clay that got fired. Midge (the instructor) made a comment at the end: "I thought you said you couldn't shoot?". Now all I need is a bit of time with a gunsmith to see if I need to put some extra length on the stock of my gun and a lot more practice. I really should have had a lesson sooner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikky Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Evening Guys, Tonight I had a lesson with Tracey Dines at the Fennes at Braintree. Not really a lesson I suppose nore of a "Why can't I hit more?" On the whole she said that my mount, timing and movement were good. The one thing that lets me down is my hold position when calling for the clay. 99% of the times I miss is because I am holding the muzzles to high, Tracey said that I need to hold lower as it is easier to move the gun up than it is to move the gun down. A prime example of this is the short range rabbit they have there (for those of you that have shot it) I normally up til now hold the muzzles of my gun in line with the path of the Rabbit, Tracey got me to hold them a lot lower and come up to it. and although my way I didn't miss, her way they were balls of dust and to be honest it felt more natural and right. By starting high I end up shooting high, which now someone has said that to me it all fits into place The other thing she said was I must learn to trust my instincts as I get the correct lead picture almost every time and then question it in my head and move either further in front or miss behind. 99% of the time the gun is pointing correctly first time and rather than pull the trigger I hang on and make sure and that doesn't always work. It was an eye opener I will admit and was good because we had the entire ground to ourselves so I could stand any where to make the birds harder. I shot 125 clays and broke well over a hundred only dropping the odd one here and there, now all I need to do is put the theory into practice.. On the whole she said that my mount, timing and movement were good. The one thing that lets me down is my hold position i think i will have to get some ...."lessons " with tracey .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Evening Guys, Tonight I had a lesson with Tracey Dines at the Fennes at Braintree. Not really a lesson I suppose nore of a "Why can't I hit more?" On the whole she said that my mount, timing and movement were good. The one thing that lets me down is my hold position when calling for the clay. 99% of the times I miss is because I am holding the muzzles to high, Tracey said that I need to hold lower as it is easier to move the gun up than it is to move the gun down. A prime example of this is the short range rabbit they have there (for those of you that have shot it) I normally up til now hold the muzzles of my gun in line with the path of the Rabbit, Tracey got me to hold them a lot lower and come up to it. and although my way I didn't miss, her way they were balls of dust and to be honest it felt more natural and right. By starting high I end up shooting high, which now someone has said that to me it all fits into place The other thing she said was I must learn to trust my instincts as I get the correct lead picture almost every time and then question it in my head and move either further in front or miss behind. 99% of the time the gun is pointing correctly first time and rather than pull the trigger I hang on and make sure and that doesn't always work. It was an eye opener I will admit and was good because we had the entire ground to ourselves so I could stand any where to make the birds harder. I shot 125 clays and broke well over a hundred only dropping the odd one here and there, now all I need to do is put the theory into practice.. Tracy sounds a bit like my wife,only she says My mount is good...movement is very good...but my timing is **** And it just feels like she charges me £50 an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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