old man Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 Ok, as above please, would like individual opinions on your rifles giving between 26 and 35 ftlbs in .22 cal. My reason is that following a recent operation, rowing and other similar rotations and pressures are out. This will cause my brand new Patriot (3 shots only) and old workhorse HW 80 to go, being replaced by a reliable PCP tool up to about £300 tops. Thanks in advance for your opinions and reliability comment about your tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 Any pcp can be made Fac so see what you can get for £300.00. Air Arms S200 maybe used for your budget. You might be best looking at less popular makes with a tight budget the Diana older BSA's. Hatsan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les*1066 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Used FAC air rifles are generally difficult to sell, because not too many people are looking for them, so you can usually pick up a bargain from the likes of Gunstar, Guntrader etc etc. For example: https://www.guntrader.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Falcon_Air-Rifle_For-Sale_140823193408001 There are probably more on this site - that's just the first one I came across. All PCP's work on the same principle, so repairs are generally not too difficult if you decide to service them yourself. Edited April 6, 2016 by Les*1066 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 An S200 won't get you many shots in FAC mode.. Look for a 410 seen good results with those. Anything else is over your budget unless your lucky.. Oh ! And don't forget the £200 for charging gear.. :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 An S200 won't get you many shots in FAC mode.. Look for a 410 seen good results with those. Anything else is over your budget unless your lucky.. Oh ! And don't forget the £200 for charging gear.. :-( Cheers Dougy, may have to up the budget a bit then? Just looked at the 200 to cut the weight a bit more? Flyboy1950 in charge of the bottle and bits, Copperkins supplying the air, Going to chat up the Air Gun Doctor as soon as able to drive again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I have an Air Ranger .22 (40fpe) it was just a year old and cost £500 as new. It has a 500cc bottle so plenty of shots. Its easy to use but not the lightest with all the gear on. If its cost effective fac would R/F be better cheaper and lighter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Very badly worded title lads ! this should have been FAC Air Rifle Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 PCP? Over limit? In Airgun section? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Very badly worded title lads ! this should have been FAC Air Rifle Deershooter Deershooter be gentle although you are both correct there is no need to to be that harsh.. PCP? Over limit? In Airgun section? Tut tut tut old man. consider yourself told off. If you can scrounge some free air of one of the other olduns that's brilliant and a big saving too.. I can only assume that you've not been too well recently, I wish you al the best and a speedy recovery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Thanks Dougy, doing well and consider myself now told off. I'm now bionic. The other olds have plenty of air as you know well. You will soon receive your application pack to join the club. Have decided Air Arms 400 is the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Thanks Dougy, doing well and consider myself now told off. I'm now bionic. The other olds have plenty of air as you know well. You will soon receive your application pack to join the club. Have decided Air Arms 400 is the way to go. correct me if I,m wrong but isn't the s400 single shot ? would you not be better with a multishot like the s410 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitetail Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 I know it's not what you want to hear but if you go and buy a used air arms 400 you will still need it converting to fac that's going to cost money, I've just looked on gun trader and there's a 410 extra on there already fac for £425 . If your not careful trying to save money or sticking to your budget might end up costing you more when you factor everything in and have a rifle that's not really suited to fac levels and not being able to sell it. I would recommend a rapid 7 if your after fac , you can pick them up for £450 -550 already converted but that's over your budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted April 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Thanks guys for your thoughts. I am thinking of a carbine and have a friendly Airgun Doctor who will do all of the necessary for me. The only reason cost is an issue is because it will be a tool not something for a cotton wool wrap and to be admired from afar. Nothing ruled out yet please keep it coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitetail Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 A 400 series carbine won't hold enough air for fac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Yes but is the airgun Doctor a RFD because if he is not he can not up the power over 12 foot pounds as then he would be in possession of a FAC without a licence . Also what do you tell plod about buying it it can be a real can of worms if you are not careful . Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 As whitetail said,I would not consider the carbine as FAC, your outing could be very short, I can't remember now what the shot count would be at 30 ftlb but not many. Standard size barrel and cylinder would be allot better. 2nd hand AA300 or 400 or if there about the 310 or 410 repeaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Yes but is the airgun Doctor a RFD because if he is not he can not up the power over 12 foot pounds as then he would be in possession of a FAC without a licence . Also what do you tell plod about buying it it can be a real can of worms if you are not careful . Deershooter Yes he is an RFD of many years experience and a repairer to the trade. Always careful. As whitetail said,I would not consider the carbine as FAC, your outing could be very short, I can't remember now what the shot count would be at 30 ftlb but not many. Standard size barrel and cylinder would be allot better. 2nd hand AA300 or 400 or if there about the 310 or 410 repeaters. Cheers Dougy, a good thought but where I would use it most 30 shots would be exceptional, usually? mostly? hopefully? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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