Richie10 Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Is there a reason why reloading powders are hard to get hold of? They either make them or they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatsanmad Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Not just you pal. Think most are in same boat as you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Not just you pal. Think most are in same boat as you. +1 some of us are in the same dingey too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 It's a pain in the *** , I have about 3/4 of a tub left which I am saving just for goose loads , I resorted to buying duck loads half way through last season or I would be run out. Even the American guys are struggling to get it although some has just started to trickle onto the market there , trouble is they are buying it up in bulk so its going to be a while before we see any ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Is there a reason for it? Like the components of the powder are hard to get hold of or is it being restricted? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Is there a reason for it? Like the components of the powder are hard to get hold of or is it being restricted? Thanks According to the American guys Alliant produce powders for the US military , they placed a huge order which meant all of the factory's capacity is going toward filling that , rather than producing powder for minions such as us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Where are they off to next, Syria or a return trip to Iraq? According to the American guys Alliant produce powders for the US military , they placed a huge order which meant all of the factory's capacity is going toward filling that , rather than producing powder for minions such as us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Where are they off to next, Syria or a return trip to Iraq? I Guess we will find out after the next major Terror incident that directly effects the US ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 It is hard to find but noticed on an american waterfowling facebook page it seems to have started showing up over there, so hopefully we might start seeing it soon over here in significant quantity. I still have a few pounds of it left and a few killo of the similar 381 so i should be ok, but have started loading vitavouri powders in many steel HW and copper loads. This might be another option for those running short of A steel right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughshooter Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 If you are looking for consistancy and ease of purchase then you should look to the European powders such as Vihtavouri. It is easily as good as Alliant Steel and will certainly meter a whole lot better in a press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 If you are looking for consistancy and ease of purchase then you should look to the European powders such as Vihtavouri. It is easily as good as Alliant Steel and will certainly meter a whole lot better in a press. Interesting , what sort of results are you getting with it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB1954 Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Interesting , what sort of results are you getting with it ? +1 Results and data, where do you get it. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomaddy525 Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Interested in what you have to say about this Vihtavouri... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiLisCer Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Back in about 2013 ATK lost the use of the Radford Army munitions plant - although they still had a 5 year contract to make Military ammo - once this contract is up - they are homeless and will more than likely be sold to either BAE or Lake City - or even AN Other. Until such time we are not going to see any Alliant powder commercially available in the US, UK or anywhere - in fact we may never see Alliant powder again as we know it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Interesting , what sort of results are you getting with it ? the finn's have been using vit powders for steel reloads for a good few years now I think I downloaded this data back in 2011 www.unlimitedammo.fi is the web address run it through google translate some of it looks better than others and this is the base for most of the loads that are getting tested at the moment in 10g and 31/2"12g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 the finn's have been using vit powders for steel reloads for a good few years now I think I downloaded this data back in 2011 www.unlimitedammo.fi is the web address run it through google translate some of it looks better than others and this is the base for most of the loads that are getting tested at the moment in 10g and 31/2"12g Thanks Nick ,but I cannot seem to get it to translate for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 just had a quick look and the site is still active though the 3" longshot loads look a tad hot to me the 31/2" load number 12892027 seems to have the most promise for our foreshore goose shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 if it wont translate click on reseptit on the left of the page the click on teras which is finnish for steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 if it wont translate click on reseptit on the left of the page the click on teras which is finnish for steel Cheers, shame the only 76mm load calls for a winchester case when I have a shed load of federal to use up but the 3.5" load looks ok . It's alternative duck loads I really need , its a shame Alliant is not available because I had found a load I was very happy with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB1954 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Thanks for the link and I agree compared to American data the Longshot loads look hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughshooter Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) I have tested a lot of 12g 3" and 3 1/2" loads with N105 and had good consistent results - all outside CIP regs of course. 3n38 is better in the 10 bore although I did have a satisfactory result with n105 in 10 bore I will dig out my proof tested data over the next few days Edited April 10, 2016 by roughshooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I have tested a lot of 12g 3" and 3 1/2" loads with N105 and had good consistent results - all outside CIP regs of course. 3n38 is better in the 10 bore although I did have a satisfactory result with n105 in 10 bore I will dig out my proof tested data over the next few days Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB1954 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I have tested a lot of 12g 3" and 3 1/2" loads with N105 and had good consistent results - all outside CIP regs of course. 3n38 is better in the 10 bore although I did have a satisfactory result with n105 in 10 bore I will dig out my proof tested data over the next few days Thanks. I would appreciate seeing the 12g 3" tests. Like I have said before I use American data thus SAAMI regs so don't worry about CIP regs. I assume your loads are with in SAAMI spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Vitavouri data for shotgun is on a few scandinavian sites on facebook if you look, the unlimited ammo data is a good start though, for anyone wanting to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) According to the American guys Alliant produce powders for the US military , they placed a huge order which meant all of the factory's capacity is going toward filling that , rather than producing powder for minions such as us. That's another one of those old urban myths. By law since WW2 the American military has to produce all its own munitions and can't be dependent on commercial sources for anything. The big US munitions factory at Lake City is on short time and laying off staff because they have not got enough work on. I have heard this same excuse so many times for shortages but the truth is the whole American ammo industry is virtually bankrupt and new shipping regulations and export controls have all but finished them off Edited April 12, 2016 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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