12gauge82 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Yep, of course it could. It's a vicious circle, I'll never trust my spaniel fully around other dogs now. The really bizarre thing is that when he's working he has no interest in any dogs at all, they can be working by his side and he doesn't care he doesn't even acknowledge their presence. It's not a bad thing, but I think he's so intent on hunting all the other stuff goes out of the window. He sounds like a cracking working dog, don't give up on him, most of the harm can usually be undone with a bit of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 I'd second wot 12g82 said above, while i doubt u'll ever fully trust him (as u never should any dog) and the dog may always have some mistrust/fear of other dogs too. But socialising with the right sort of friendly dogs may help or start training with a few boys of the shoot and their dogs that ur dog already knows/ignores or joining a training group with a decent trainer, usually quite good craic anyway. I know i previously mentioned that dog whisper bloke and i have no idea how real made up for tv it is, but he does seem to educate some pretty mental and aggresive dogs just by socialising them with his own non aggressive dogs. He also reckons a lot is to do with ur own body energy, if u get tense/scared when u see a dog coming ur dog will sense that and feel the same. Sounds a lot of mumbo jumbo/ happy clappy nonesense but heard trainers in this country say the same. Might be worth watching an odd episode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 He also reckons a lot is to do with ur own body energy, if u get tense/scared when u see a dog coming ur dog will sense that and feel the same. Sounds a lot of mumbo jumbo/ happy clappy nonesense but heard trainers in this country say the same. Might be worth watching an odd episode I often wondered about that and reckon your right, when you think about it dogs have evolved over thousands of years, living with man, what they pick up on is incredible, mine know when we are going out before I do anything obvious (like coat, boots, leads ect) and it's like they can read my mind, what they're really doing is reading my body language and it's incredible as I am unaware of what they're picking up on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 My lab was only 6 months when i was walking her on the pavement doing some heal work with her lead, and as I passed a house where we know the owners (they are real chav scum, the woman has a few kids all of which are in court/youth offenders etc...), you can literally smell the canibis as you walk past too. One of the sum opened up the door to have a cigerette and all 3 staffs came out and leapt the small garden wall and circled and then attacked my lab. I was lucky enough that there was lots of other people there who all jumped in trying to separate them and hitting the staffs with sticks and anything else found nearby. I managed to drag my lab out of it by her lead and pick her up and managed to get her away from it all in the end - however, she had some puncture marks and a few gashes but nothing serious - however it really knocked her confidence and it took me ages to get her back to normal again. They refused to accept any responsibility for any of it, albeit my dog was on the pavement, on a short slip lead, by my side, and their dogs escaped a house and jumped a wall to get to mine... I didn't take mine to the vet in the end, I just give her a good clean, small wound powder and some TLC but someone (anonymous lol) tipped off the police about drug dealing as well as smoking drugs with kids in the house... I've heard on the local grapevine that they are at risk of having their little ones taken away for drug abuse and smoking cannabis infront of them plus a plethora of other problems. Sad as it may be, they are not safe there. Especially as there is now only 2 staffs living there, as the other 2 literally crushed the other ones head apparently - (A neighbour told me the two were using the other ones head for tug of war until it died). More recently, I saw a dog attack where I take mine to walk, it's a MOD army training area allowed to public to walk dogs etc... a chav and his scummy family were walking a staff, it ran over and picked up this lovely old lady (I see her most days) very old Jack Russell and started thrashing it about. A man who walks his lab with me often, who is a huge mountain of a man, managed to grab them both and managed to get the staff off, holding it by it's harness on it's back as it was thrashing it about, he lobbed the dog into the water (it's a river where the bit were were stood all talking letting the dogs play is a open part they like to swim in). The Staff panicked and wasn't doing a good job of swimming, and strangely nobody went to help.... cue, scum chav running full pelt and removing expensive items from clothing before having to go in himself to get dog. We all secretly hoped that the staff just drowned as it would have been for the best but unfortunately it survived. The JR was bleeding a lot and the old lady was absolutely in bits, and we had to get her plus dog 2 miles back to cars and get vet organised etc... I like the idea of the lemon jiffy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blast2012 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Apparently pull the front legs apart enough and the ribcage breaks and can peirce the heart, but that might be an old wives tale, also sticking your finger up the attacking dogs choccy starfish makes them let go, anybody who tries that please let me know how it goes :-) the best one is to throw your coat over your own dog as it is being attacked and the attackers will grab onto the coat and shake it giving you time.to act. Personally I carry a Swiss army knife that I wouldn't hesitate to use on any out of control dog that attacked mine Absolutely, if an owner was present i'd go to court and have any dog put down who attacked me or my dogs...if the owner wasn't tie the **** to post and let it fight with a 100gn!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 if the owner wasn't tie the **** to post and let it fight with a 100gn!!!! Unclear as to exactly what this means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Unclear as to exactly what this means. tie it to a post and shoot it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 I thought it might be - just didn't think someone would be daft enough to make the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hitman Posted January 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Hi Folks Just an update on the original post. The police have informed me that the owner has had a police warning, with the advice that the dog must wear a muzzle when being walked. My dog is fine now, and is lying by the fire after a good day beating. Thanks for all the replies. Hitman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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