silver pigeon69 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Hi, i have just collected some old Air rifles and guns from my Mum. They were mine/my Dads and thought you may like to see them and wondered if you could give me any info on dates etc. I'll start with the air rifles and then put the rifles up. From the top: Daisy BB gun (at least 42yrs old, stock replaced by my dad, my first gun!) Orriginal 35 (at least 40yrs old, my first Air rifle!) Air Arms (model?) (at least 27yrs old) Old de-act/replica? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted January 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Enfield de-act Winchester Model USA 1902 .22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted January 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 The Enfield has printed on the side "Converted for ? by W.W. Greener". Who would it have been converted for? Did this orriginally have a hammer? Any info would be gratefully received. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Greener did the de-act? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted January 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Greener did the de-act? Not sure, it looks like its a .22 now, would it of been .22 orriginally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 The Martini was probably converted to a .22 as a trainer or hunting rifle - the stock looks like it has been sporterised although someone who knows more may correct me on that. The percussion gun looks like a fowler. That's an original although it may have been converted from something else. If that's a patchbox on the stock it could have been originally intended for solid ball or shot. I presume it's smoothbore? The markings on it are odd - it looks like it has a crown VR mark and a makers name but I cant make the latter out and the former doesnt look right. Is the airarms a woodstocked Jackal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) The Martini was probably converted to a .22 as a trainer or hunting rifle - the stock looks like it has been sporterised although someone who knows more may correct me on that. The percussion gun looks like a fowler. That's an original. If that's a patchbox on the stock it could have been originally intended for round ball or shot. I presume it's smoothbore? Is the airarms a woodstocked Jackal? Yes it is a patchbox and smoothbore. Thanks Edit: not sure why when i quoted your post all this extra text came up??? Edited January 5, 2017 by silver pigeon69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I was editing and adding more to my post when you were typing yours by the looks of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) The Enfield has printed on the side "Converted for ? by W.W. Greener". Who would it have been converted for? Did this orriginally have a hammer? Any info would be gratefully received. Thanks. Converted for the WD by WW Greener. Thousands of Martinis were converted to .303 after the adoption of the Lee and .303 became the official calibre. Mostly issued to 'native troops' WD = War Department Edited January 5, 2017 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Converted for the WD by WW Greener. Thousands of Martinis were converted to .303 after the adoption of the Lee and .303 became the official calibre. Mostly issued to 'native troops' WD = War Department Originally .455 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Originally .455 ? .450/577 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Is th .450/577 Is this smoothbore ? Indian police were issued with S.M.L.E " Muskets" firing shotshells for riot use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Is th Is this smoothbore ? Indian police were issued with S.M.L.E " Muskets" firing shotshells for riot use The Indian police still have them today, thousands of them .410 SMLEs Edited January 6, 2017 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted January 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Is th Is this smoothbore ? Indian police were issued with S.M.L.E " Muskets" firing shotshells for riot use do you mean the Enfield or Percussion? The Percussion is smootbore. Thanks for the responses, keep them coming pls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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