stumfelter Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 They don't live with me so we can video chat all the time . They don't watch YouTube on their phones , we use my play station on TV for that. That explains it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 my grandaughter is 8 now...........doesnt want a phone...cant be bothered with the computor at home ...just flicks thro her mums pad when bordom strikes...........spend s a lot of time helping her mum cook and asking questions..........her friends of a similar age are more or less the same................very strange....very pleased about it to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 What kind of changes in behaviour? Just interested to hear more mate Verbally aggressive and short tempered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hightower666 Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 For those jumping on the educators saying 'what do they know', I pose the same question to you all because you all seemingly know nothing too. It's got nothing to do with addiction, changes in behaviour, what teachers think is best, or whatever other cock-a-hope you want to make up. There's a reason for it, and it's simple. Children aren't allowed accounts on such sites until they are 13 because of the data those sites hold. There's nothing to stop them browsing those sites, but they are not legally allowed an account until that age. I'm not sure the rules of this site, but I'm sure similar exists (or it should) that you have to be 13+ to sign up. It's for no other reason than it's illegal to hold information of children below that age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 my grandaughter is 8 now...........doesnt want a phone...cant be bothered with the computor at home ...just flicks thro her mums pad when bordom strikes...........spend s a lot of time helping her mum cook and asking questions..........her friends of a similar age are more or less the same................very strange....very pleased about it to Sounds like her 'family' are doing a good job. Well done to you, I genuinely hope it stays that way. I can't deny i personally had a poor upbringing, but i had an adventurous one to say the least! And look back with a smile!! Out from dawn until dusk, even longer after my dad died when i was 12. I tried all ways to get my kids interested in outdoor activities, but it never really paid off in the long run. But not for the want of trying! Especially my son. I tried to get him into cars, car repairs (Service, and a little more) shooting, fishing motorbikes but he just wasn't interested. Having said that, both have got good jobs, and 'touch wood' are and will do great. My son works in I.T, and my daughter does something equally geeky in a car dealership. You can do your best, but the path your children take, is made by them alone. No matter how or what the advice.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 It is easy for children to get addicted. My son is a bright lad but we have had to seriously restrict his ipad time. Otherwise he wastes his time watching YouTube rubbish. And if we let him have more of it, say during holiday time, you notice a marked change in his behaviour. Personally I have found the information from the school regarding social media very useful and I take their advice. But that's jus My wife and i went through a similar short spell with my son. If i recall, i did mention it at one of his parent's evenings, and got good advice. I'm only saying 'good', as it seemed to work, and stop he getting angry when we wanted him to come off the games console for dinner. It was always, 'In a minute'. Over and over. I think we just started restricting his access more than we did?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Then there's the other side of the coin,adults playing on PlayStation/Xboxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted February 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 For those jumping on the educators saying 'what do they know', I pose the same question to you all because you all seemingly know nothing too. It's got nothing to do with addiction, changes in behaviour, what teachers think is best, or whatever other cock-a-hope you want to make up. There's a reason for it, and it's simple. Children aren't allowed accounts on such sites until they are 13 because of the data those sites hold. There's nothing to stop them browsing those sites, but they are not legally allowed an account until that age. I'm not sure the rules of this site, but I'm sure similar exists (or it should) that you have to be 13+ to sign up. It's for no other reason than it's illegal to hold information of children below that age. Facebook yes 100% not for kids but whatsapp ? Enlighten me to the difference between that and a phone text/call please ? You have to have the phone number . My 21month old watches YouTube . She loves singing and dancing. ( she's awesome ) Then there's the other side of the coin,adults playing on PlayStation/Xboxes. It keeps me quiet lol after work. I worked 8-8 again today so I have a 30min play before bed as a wind down If I'm good and wifey says ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Although what's app may not have a 13+ age limit the thing that concerns me regarding this app is the group chat facility. It is common for children to have chat groups with their 'friends'. However it is easy for these to spiral into bullying. Amongst girls especially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted February 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Although what's app may not have a 13+ age limit the thing that concerns me regarding this app is the group chat facility. It is common for children to have chat groups with their 'friends'. However it is easy for these to spiral into bullying. Amongst girls especially. I totally understand that. We monitor it and I'll be honest I tell her to use her phone around me only. My son only messages grandma lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 My sons schools were disgusted that i'd introduced my sons to hunting and firearms at a young age.So this makes me a very bad parent,that's there opinion.Son even got threatened with exclusion if he continued to talk about his hunting exploits.My other son had a letter sent home because he had an 'inappropriate hair cut'.Schools should stick to education and leave parenting to parents,the problems with social media will never go away.May be in the future you may have to verify your id/age/gender with a finger print I'd before being allowed to bypass the home screens on electronic gadgets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted February 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) My sons schools were disgusted that i'd introduced my sons to hunting and firearms at a young age.So this makes me a very bad parent,that's there opinion.Son even got threatened with exclusion if he continued to talk about his hunting exploits.My other son had a letter sent home because he had an 'inappropriate hair cut'.Schools should stick to education and leave parenting to parents,the problems with social media will never go away.May be in the future you may have to verify your id/age/gender with a finger print I'd before being allowed to bypass the home screens on electronic gadgets.My son had cams involved because he knows about death I said to them that we shoot so yes he does . They were horrified about him using guns or hunting. I said to them to enjoy their caged animals they eat and the fact he's growing up with guns makes him safer. My ex's other half is an ex rfd so my lad can't get away from it. The junior rifle i was given is off a high court judge Edited February 3, 2017 by team tractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickS Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 I am amazed you got CAMHS involved given to wait for them to deal with serious and immediate issues. Maybe we should write "shoots bunnies" on the referral form to help speed things up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted February 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 I am amazed you got CAMHS involved given to wait for them to deal with serious and immediate issues. Maybe we should write "shoots bunnies" on the referral form to help speed things up.... Let's not go there. It wasted everyone's time pointless to get to the end and say ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickS Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Pointless in your son's case, I agree, but they do help kids deal with serious issues. To answer another point, I do wish some parents would take more responsibility for bringing up their kids. If your response to an e-mail is "I know all this and already do it", it isn't aimed at you. The problem is that the parents who could do with upping their game a bit are unlikely to bother acting on any advice anyway. It amazes me how well some of them turn out despite their parents (certainly applies to my kids!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted February 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Pointless in your son's case, I agree, but they do help kids deal with serious issues. To answer another point, I do wish some parents would take more responsibility for bringing up their kids. If your response to an e-mail is "I know all this and already do it", it isn't aimed at you. The problem is that the parents who could do with upping their game a bit are unlikely to bother acting on any advice anyway. It amazes me how well some of them turn out despite their parents (certainly applies to my kids!). You've met my ex then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickS Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) You've met my ex then I don't know. What was his name? Edited February 4, 2017 by NickS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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