Feltwad Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Enclosed are images of the early type of sxs shotgun in flintlock ,these were the fore runners of shooting flying before that most game was shot sitting from long barrelled single barrel guns .The art of shooting flying became popular from the 1780s onward s ,the most well known gun makers of the period from 1780 were the Manton brothers .The style of gun they produced with the 30inch barrels still resembles the modern sxs today Feltwad French flintlock sxs shotgun Edited February 3, 2017 by Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Wow.....stunning piece of history, you need to post a vid of her being used in anger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klatuveradanikto Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Beautiful ,amazing craftsmanship for the period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted February 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Images of English Flintlock sxs shotgun Flintlock of 1820 with rain proof pans Sxs by Ketland circa 1770 Edited February 3, 2017 by Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwizard Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Love the old guns , use to have a SxS hammer gun in the 70's wish I still had it , will have to attend more auctions . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatFreddysCat Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Mine's not in the same condition as that one and certainly not in a fit condition to fire. Name on the lockplate is Naudot so assume it's continental. Interesting carved boars head on the stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted February 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Mine's not in the same condition as that one and certainly not in a fit condition to fire. Name on the lockplate is Naudot so assume it's continental. Interesting carved boars head on the stock.ScreenHunter_26 Feb. 03 20.45.jpgScreenHunter_25 Feb. 03 20.44.jpg A nice example Common practice of Continental gun makers to carve their gun stocks with heads of animals I see yours is the Rams head with a cheek piece. I have restored several of this type of Continental flintlocks in the past some guns had a cheek piece on both sides of the stock to cater for both left and right hand shooters , Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1440 Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Very nice. If you'be ever had the good fortune to shoot one you will know how painful it can be on the left forearm when the sparks from the left hand pan land on it. Edited February 3, 2017 by Paul1440 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysinaweek Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Enclosed are images of the early type of sxs shotgun in flintlock ,these were the fore runners of shooting flying before that most game was shot sitting from long barrelled single barrel guns .The art of shooting flying became popular from the 1780s onward s ,the most well known gun makers of the period from 1780 were the Manton brothers .The style of gun they produced with the 30inch barrels still resembles the modern sxs today Feltwad Hi Feltwad am I correct in that one of the Manton brothers was Joseph Manton? I recall when reading both volumes of Colonel Peter Hawkers diary he made regular reference to this highly skilled gunmaker and throughout his book had purchased several punt guns and other fowling guns in various stages of build, shoot, test, re smithed by him. Some of them where of huge guns. I recall in the book that they eventually went bankrupt but cannot be 100% sure as it was may years ago i read them. The books were one of the most insightful, humorous, fascinating and detailed accounts of a era long gone that will never be repeated. I am not a fowler myself but enjoy your posts and can see the beauty, skills and diligence which went into making these marvelous pieces of fowling history. atb 7diaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted February 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 7diaw Yes you are correct Joseph Manton was the younger brother of John Manton they both were first class gun makers john was more associated to the flintlock and Joseph the percussion .Joseph tried several inventions to the ignition of firearms which included , tubes, patchs and caps this was his downfall because the fultimate which he used in producing these inventions was patented by Forsythe who sued all gunmakers of that period who used it ,this finially bankrupt Joseph Manton . Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysinaweek Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 7diaw Yes you are correct Joseph Manton was the younger brother of John Manton they both were first class gun makers john was more associated to the flintlock and Joseph the percussion .Joseph tried several inventions to the ignition of firearms which included , tubes, patchs and caps this was his downfall because the fultimate which he used in producing these inventions was patented by Forsythe who sued all gunmakers of that period who used it ,this finially bankrupt Joseph Manton . Feltwad I know in the diary he states once or twice the price of the guns and they were not cheap and could be many, many months in the making, testing, shooting by hawker then re smithing. As you would be in the know of more than most i was fascinated at some of the size of the punt guns, the size of load and the distance of shot would travel. Just looking at one of the books again, one account gives a shot of approx 300 yards for 2 brent geese, that is some distance. Ahh,and thanks for informing me of the reason they went out of business, cannot recall if it was mentioned in the book. atb 7diaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog1408 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Stunning piece....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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