Guest stevo Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) Hi just wondering if anyone out there in the flatlands of Lincolnshire either is or has been on a temp SG cert whilst under the above county ? Reason I ask is my cert is in for renewal ( has been for 6 weeks now ) I sent it in with 13 weeks left on it. Yesterday I received a letter from Lincs police saying they are dealing with my cert and should be sorted before the old one runs out however ................ in the off chance it is delayed through there fault I will be issued with a temp cert. now my question is can I still take the gun out and use it while on said temp cert ? I have searched and searched for a difinitive answer but for everyone that says yes there is also an answer that says no. I'm at a bit of a loss as to my legal position. I will try and get through to firearms in the week. But was hoping someone may have the answer I have always been under the impression that temp Certs were for bailiffs and auction houses ect ect so they can be in possession while selling the gun. And so they were just a cert to possess NOT to use ? Any one ? Edited February 26, 2017 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 my flo said years ago that if it runs out,just wait for the new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) my flo said years ago that if it runs out,just wait for the new one. Yes this is what I have always believe to be the right thing to do. Edited February 26, 2017 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 We in Cambridgeshire are very happy not to be served by the appallingly bad Lincs Firearms Team. Good luck, they have a terrible reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Was talking with a fella at Woolley Edge couple weeks ago he has his renewal in, his licensing dept rang him and told him to regime his shotguns as his very wont be issued before old one runs out. I'd be asking for written clarity on itffom your FEO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Yes can use it on a temp cert. Why they would issue one as it's the same work as a full one I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) Yes you can still use your shotgun on a section 7 permit and still acquire ammunition. This is the email I have recently received from Kent police. The details can be confirmed on the BASC website. Mr Sutton, I can confirm we have received your shotgun renewal and will deal with in due course. Currently we are issuing temporary permits, you will receive one through the post around the time your current certificate is due to expire. The permit will allow you to possess your section 2 guns and aquire cartridges, but it will not allow you to aquire any guns, it is a permit to possess only. With regard to section one ammunition this cannot be acquired on a temporary permit. I have copied and pasted below the Firearms law relating to section 2 ammunition for your information. 15.3. A permit may not be issued to authorise the purchase or acquisition of firearms or ammunition (although section 5(1) of the 1988 Act allows the holder of a permit to purchase section 2 shotgun ammunition). Firearms that are subject to section 5 of the 1968 Act, (for example firearms held under sections 2 to 8 of the 1997 Act), cannot be held on a permit. Chief Officers should complete basic background checks (PNC, local Intel and consider PND) to ensure the suitability of the applicant if it does not involve an existing certificate holder Edited February 26, 2017 by belly47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) From basic website Section 7 Permits Are you entitled to one? The legalities It is the certificate holders responsibility to renew their certificate on time and not rely on police reminders. The police do send out renewal reminders well in advance of expiry. However, backlogs can occur and are expected in 2015. Each request for a temporary permit case must be determined on its merits but constabularies should issue them if delays have occurred in the system. It is intended to cover temporary situations such as delays, or to allow short-term possession of firearms after the death of the certificated owner. A permit may not be issued in order to authorise the purchase or acquisition of firearms or ammunition but shotgun ammunition can be purchased if you have a temporary permit. The Home Office Guidance says: 10.61 If a certificate expires before a renewed certificate has been issued and the certificate holder has behaved in a reasonable manner returning the forms in good time, a temporary permit (section 7 Permit) should be issued by default. With regard to renewal, the applicant may submit a photocopy of their certificate and retain the expiring certificate in order to be able to buy ammunition. 15.4 Permits should be issued by chief officers where a certificate has not been re-issued or where a variation has been delayed and the applicant has made the application in good time. This may be appropriate where the renewal of a certificate is so delayed that the applicant may otherwise be left without permission to continue possessing and using their firearm and ammunition. This may not be the case where the applicant or his referees had been uncooperative and, is, or are, substantially responsible for the delay. In these circumstances, the applicant should be advised to arrange for the firearms and ammunition to be placed in storage with a registered firearms dealer or another suitably authorised certificate holder. BASC advice on obtaining a Section 7 temporary permit BASCs advice is that if your certificate is delayed by the administrative process you should always make a written request for a temporary permit. These are the things you need to do: Supply the date you submitted your renewal application and the date your certificate(s) expired. Request the immediate renewal of the certificates or the issue of a Section 7 permit to prevent you from possessing firearms without a valid certificate. Politely advise that if a Section 7 permit is not issued then you will be obliged to consider submitting a formal complaint. Request details of the complaints procedure. Edited February 26, 2017 by belly47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 I've got a temporary permit at the moment and I am in Lincolnshire, as far as i'm aware I can take my gun out, there is nothing on it say that i can't! I sent my forms in 14 weeks before i licence ran out ( which was 20/02/2017 ), FEO is coming out on the 28th! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 I've got a temporary permit at the moment and I am in Lincolnshire, as far as i'm aware I can take my gun out, there is nothing on it say that i can't! I sent my forms in 14 weeks before i licence ran out ( which was 20/02/2017 ), FEO is coming out on the 28th! Thanks everyone. Matt it's a sad state of affairs mate. 😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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