propercartridges Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 well they done it people but the magic question when do we start to pay if we are going to pay import duty and vat on components coming in from the eu is there any people genned up on this on here cheers george well they done it people but the magic question when do we start to pay if we are going to pay import duty and vat on components coming in from the eu is there any people genned up on this on here cheers george i should say the vat is not a problem that bit i know about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 May be someone will setup manufacturing in the uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted March 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 May be someone will setup manufacturing in the uk ithought i was doing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 ithought i was doing that So what are you worried about then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphead Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Undoubtedly there will be import duty on goods from Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted March 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 So what are you worried about then? i was asking if anybody on here new the answer would we have to pay import duty and if so when what tarrif would we be paying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 i can promise you two things will happen 1, some shells will be really expensive 2, some wil be a lot cheaper there will always be some bargins about the people that will suffer the most will be the ones making them , people will just shop about or shoot less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted March 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 i can promise you two things will happen 1, some shells will be really expensive 2, some wil be a lot cheaper there will always be some bargins about the people that will suffer the most will be the ones making them , people will just shop about or shoot less why do you say that steveo the imported ones will have duty on them as well the carts were only cheap when the euro was good on the exchange rate where r all the cheap carts now since the euro has changed in value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphead Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 A lot of companies profiteered from the Brexit vote and increased prices while they were still sat on stock that cost them less... Happened in almost every industry. Eventually, somebody will come along that wants to move things in numbers and make a name for themselves by working for less but moving more... then things will get cheaper again as companies compete with each other again... JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted March 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 A lot of companies profiteered from the Brexit vote and increased prices while they were still sat on stock that cost them less... Happened in almost every industry. Eventually, somebody will come along that wants to move things in numbers and make a name for themselves by working for less but moving more... then things will get cheaper again as companies compete with each other again... JMO yes slaphead but do you not think the prices are high now for carts nevermind import duty been put on as well i used to import about 400 4x4s a year and the rates were between 10 and 22 per cent plus vat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkey Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 That's a big chunk of the market lost if Europe prices itself out there will be vat but they will still want to sell shells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) It won't be Europe pricing itself out. The component parts will all have different rates applied and an assembled shell will have a different rate. Make it in UK from UK sourced components and sell to a uk market would be tariff free but why do that when you can make them in Europe and sell to a bigger market. Edited March 30, 2017 by oowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) why do you say that steveo the imported ones will have duty on them as well the carts were only cheap when the euro was good on the exchange rate where r all the cheap carts now since the euro has changed in value i tend to stick around the £165 - £200 per thou mark for clay carts , in that price range there are countless diffnt shells to chose from especially if you NOT a cartridge snob , what I'm trying to say is if the shells that I'm currently paying say ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, £185 per thou suddenly go up to £210 , I will just find another shell to use that's around the price I was paying , and so on and so on , its not a case of cost , I just DONT belive that a so called top cart of the same size , weight ect ect is worth paying the extra , there are many more factors witch will dictate how a shotgun shell will perform , but that's another story . I'm quite lucky in the respect , I cant pretty much afford to shoot when and where I like ( its finding the time that's the killer ) but I wont get mugged off buy cartridge companies , at the end of the day , if they want to sell them they are going to have to price them accordingly , top companies don't make the profits from the top shooters in the country , or the up and coming shooters , there all sponsored . There profits come from us mere mortals !! and they need to remember that , and so going back to your question , IF it the prices get out of control us mere mortals will either change to another brand and just keep swapping about , as there will always be companies trying to pull in new custom , or they just stay at home a bit more often . for a lot of people there on a budget , some tighter than others Edited March 30, 2017 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted March 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 you see if the carts are 140 euros and the exchange rate is 1.40 to the pound the carts are 100 sterling now if the carts are still 140 and the rate is likr today at 1.13 i got bid thats 123 per 1000 now thats 23 pound difference for same cart so the stuff is not cheap any more is it and all plus vat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 you see if the carts are 140 euros and the exchange rate is 1.40 to the pound the carts are 100 sterling now if the carts are still 140 and the rate is likr today at 1.13 i got bid thats 123 per 1000 now thats 23 pound difference for same cart so the stuff is not cheap any more is it and all plus vat + tarrif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 you see if the carts are 140 euros and the exchange rate is 1.40 to the pound the carts are 100 sterling now if the carts are still 140 and the rate is likr today at 1.13 i got bid thats 123 per 1000 now thats 23 pound difference for same cart so the stuff is not cheap any more is it and all plus vat yes but if your components rise to the point where its affecting your profit , you will be searching around for cheaper components and so will everyone else , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 i can promise you two things will happen 1, some shells will be really expensive 2, some wil be a lot cheaper there will always be some bargins about the people that will suffer the most will be the ones making them , people will just shop about or shoot less I have a cunning plan which I'm willing to share with any cartridge maker who is prepared to pay for the idea to prevent this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted March 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 yes but if your components rise to the point where its affecting your profit , you will be searching around for cheaper components and so will everyone else , stevo i have searched other than a few fibre wads there is nothing cheap or made in uk for to be sold on please believe me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted March 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 I have a cunning plan which I'm willing to share with any cartridge maker who is prepared to pay for the idea to prevent this. ok tell us about it the cheqe is in the post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 stevo i have searched other than a few fibre wads there is nothing cheap or made in uk for to be sold on please believe me give it time , the component companies will be competing too , its just a big knock on effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 ok tell us about it the cheqe is in the post If it's for less than 6 figures, forget it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted March 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 give it time , the component companies will be competing too , its just a big knock on effect i am just about out of stuff now without putting at least 30 pounds on waiting for the job to get better now we hear about import duty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 We won't see any tariff added until we exit so about two years time. Just put £30 on per 1000 everybody else has so what's your problem in doing so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 i am just about out of stuff now without putting at least 30 pounds on waiting for the job to get better now we hear about import duty Surely import duty won't be an issue until we actually leave, so another couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Surely import duty won't be an issue until we actually leave, so another couple of years. Nah, Some bright politician will convince us that the Pre-Brexit Duty will be beneficial for us in as much as it won't be such a shock when the final Post-Brexit Duty is applied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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