bluesj Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Just watched this and I think its well worth watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_6HbO4Jnvw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Apart from TB Badgers are destroying a lot of wildlife, there numbers need controlling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted April 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Apart from TB Badgers are destroying a lot of wildlife, there numbers need controlling. I agree but to start with I think it would be better to test as shown in the film then cull tb infected badgers and destroy the sets they lived in to help get tb under control. culling healthy badgers won't help with tb and could make things worse but culling the infected ones will help with tb and help wild life plus even help badgers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Although the subtitles on this particular piece were pretty good, because of my poor hearing I'm not quite sure whether or not I've got this right. The guy from Warwick concluded that the rope trick could well work in identifying infected setts. However, because the good lady had a dig at scientists and some of what was also said did not meet his personal views when he previewed the film, he threw his toys out of the cot and wouldn't play any more. Here was a golden opportunity to persuade her she was wrong about scientists and possibly do some good into the bargain. Additionally, there was the option that if something was against his conscience, to pass the work to a colleague. He chose to do neither. If that buffoon is an example of what can be expected from the scientific study into this awful situation, then cows will continue to be slaughtered and badgers die needlessly for years to come. One can only hope that someone switched on picks up on the piece and decides that it merits further investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Just watched it and I feel for every farmer that is waiting for their results. I found it quite upsetting to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Of course it is rampant in the wild deer stocks as well now, particularly down in the west country, Gloucestershire, Herefordshire. So check out any deer you shoot, very carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulnix Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 I agree but to start with I think it would be better to test as shown in the film then cull tb infected badgers and destroy the sets they lived in to help get tb under control. culling healthy badgers won't help with tb and could make things worse but culling the infected ones will help with tb and help wild life plus even help badgers They are not interested in testing the badgers for TB though, if too many are found with it then by EU law they have to do something about it and that's the last thing they want, basically the only way a farmer can get a test on a badger found dead if for someone to accuse him of killing it illegally ! They don't test dead badgers found on the road any more or even the badgers they are culling in the trials which beggars belief and is surely the obvious thing to do, they are refusing to test dead badgers in case they find too many with TB !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 That pretty much nails it. Although the subtitles on this particular piece were pretty good, because of my poor hearing I'm not quite sure whether or not I've got this right. The guy from Warwick concluded that the rope trick could well work in identifying infected setts. However, because the good lady had a dig at scientists and some of what was also said did not meet his personal views when he previewed the film, he threw his toys out of the cot and wouldn't play any more. Here was a golden opportunity to persuade her she was wrong about scientists and possibly do some good into the bargain. Additionally, there was the option that if something was against his conscience, to pass the work to a colleague. He chose to do neither. If that buffoon is an example of what can be expected from the scientific study into this awful situation, then cows will continue to be slaughtered and badgers die needlessly for years to come. One can only hope that someone switched on picks up on the piece and decides that it merits further investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 They are not interested in testing the badgers for TB though, if too many are found with it then by EU law they have to do something about it and that's the last thing they want, basically the only way a farmer can get a test on a badger found dead if for someone to accuse him of killing it illegally ! They don't test dead badgers found on the road any more or even the badgers they are culling in the trials which beggars belief and is surely the obvious thing to do, they are refusing to test dead badgers in case they find too many with TB !!! Because the reactive trial element was stopped because it was spreading the affected animals around and which meant that there were Defra employed staff sitting about doing nothing, the CSL (and me! - being on a fixed contract - who had been doing the Cornwall, Devon and Dorset carcass survey) staff were replaced by the now idle Defra people - 4 Land Rovers and 8 people doing my job. The final figures, then, reflected that one in 7 animals were infected or carrying. Dougy is absolutely right. When you've been called to a farm (obviously, we couldn't collect all of the road kills - more than once I'd driven some 100 miles only to see it driving off down the road in the back of a dust cart - but you'd make every effort to collect these) I'd always be asked when they'd get the result of the post mortem. I had to look the farmer straight in the eyes and you could see the pain and fear written in them and tell him that he wouldn't be told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted April 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 They are not interested in testing the badgers for TB though, if too many are found with it then by EU law they have to do something about it and that's the last thing they want, basically the only way a farmer can get a test on a badger found dead if for someone to accuse him of killing it illegally ! They don't test dead badgers found on the road any more or even the badgers they are culling in the trials which beggars belief and is surely the obvious thing to do, they are refusing to test dead badgers in case they find too many with TB !!! They are at the moment in some areas http://www.surreyvetpathology.com/pathology-services/defra-funded-badger-tb-survey So if you are in one of these areas get you collection packs drop them off at you're nearest collection point and collect you're £12 especially if you in Berkshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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