ShaggyRS6 Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Re-Zeroed at 30 yards. I then went up he permission I have where the owner has asked me to clear rabbits from their rather large 4 acre garden. Only got one cos they all ******** off after this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead-eye Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 good shot placement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Is that it all sorted now Lee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggyRS6 Posted June 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 I think so. I will try it again tommorow. I zeroed again at 30 yards and was hitting dead center. As you can see from the bunny shot at 30 yards dead on resting on a tree at x 20 mag. Fingers crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjaimz Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 x20 mag? do you not find it wobbles all over the place set that high? Good clean kill mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipper Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 fantastic shot placement = clean kill Good man Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggyRS6 Posted June 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 It does wobble a little, but I was resting on a tree so there was little movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 As you are slotting them good and proper, I am not about to tell you how suck eggs, but I am with MJ - 20x seems a massive mag for 30 yard shots. Unless you like to look deep into their eyes before you squeeze one off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Nice shot 'Shaggy' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggyRS6 Posted June 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I will trying winding back a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I will trying winding back a bit Give it a try about 8 or 10 mag you will notice the difference very little wobble then.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Just a bit of info.. The higher the mag the smaller the "exit pupil" of the scope, that is the smaller the hole through which light passes. What this means is at dusk you will not see anywhere near as well as you could do, at that magnification. The lower the mag the better the scope transmits the light and the better you will see. I'd personally not go anything higher than about 6x @ 30yds but every one is different I shoot rabbits past 100yds with the hmr and the scope there is set at 10x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_HMR Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 If your shooting at night to get the most light from a vari mag you divide the objective lens by 7 and it will give you the best mag for light gathering Its something to do with the exit pupil of your eye. So if you have a 56mm obj divided by 7 you get 8 hence the mighty 8X56 And if you have a 42mm obj divied by 7 you get 6 which is the 6x42 You can go lower than that mag but your eye isnt able to distinguish any more light than that or something. My scope has a 50 mil obj and i leave it on 16x in the day for 25-150yard shots and down to 10 at dusk or if its hard to see stuf down to 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ratcatcher Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Good shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 x20 mag? do you not find it wobbles all over the place set that high?Good clean kill mind I will trying winding back a bit :yp: Give it a try about 8 or 10 mag you will notice the difference very little wobble then.... makes me laugh EVERY time I see someone saying this. Its not wobbling anymore than it is if you have the mag at 6x. The only reason it looks like it is wobbling more is because you are magnifying the wobble. Make sense?? oh and here is a quote out of the Total Airgun Hunting book just to prove my point above: ''Try shooting on the highest magnification you can. If you wobble on aim, you'll still be doing so just as much if you reduce the magnigication. Keep the mag' high and fix the wobble by improving your technique. This tip could transform your shooting - so take notice of it.'' I rest my case lol yet again good shooting Cupra, I have shot a mk111 before and it is hard to miss though!! lol. Very nice shot placement however Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 agree completely with Cyber the only time i wouldn't use maximum mag is at dusk or dawn for the reasons as outlined by psittacosis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjaimz Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Just me, but surely at airgun ranges full mag is a bit much I reckon. At 100 - 150 yrds from a bipod sounds a bit more realistic to me, just my opinion. As for the 'wobble' thing, I think its generally understood that the higher the mag = the more amplified your natural movements (wobbling) becomes, I dont believe anyone thinks that they physically wobble the rifle more as a direct result of cranking up the mag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 agree completely with Cyber the only time i wouldn't use maximum mag is at dusk or dawn for the reasons as outlined by psittacosis So, let me get this right, in Cuppramans case you and Cyber are saying he should be using 50x (his max mag) for shooting rabbits at 30yards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 agree completely with Cyber the only time i wouldn't use maximum mag is at dusk or dawn for the reasons as outlined by psittacosis So, let me get this right, in Cuppramans case you and Cyber are saying he should be using 50x (his max mag) for shooting rabbits at 30yards? No, that isn't what I am saying atall if you re-read my post. I am simply saying that it makes me laugh when people say they wobble 'more' when they turn up the mag when it isn't true and they are wobbling exactly the same amount as they are doing with the mag turned down. I only shoot with my mag between 6x and 10x which is fine for air rifle ranges although it does state in the Total airgun book to use the highest mag you can (making sure you can still see clearly) as it will improve your overall technique in reducing wobble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 agree completely with Cyberthe only time i wouldn't use maximum mag is at dusk or dawn for the reasons as outlined by psittacosis OK, so it was Vegeta saying it whilst agreeing with you - so that's 2 of us that need glasses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 agree completely with Cyberthe only time i wouldn't use maximum mag is at dusk or dawn for the reasons as outlined by psittacosis OK, so it was Vegeta saying it whilst agreeing with you - so that's 2 of us that need glasses and also, Vegeta is saying that he uses 'his' scope on max mag which doesn't mean to say he has a 50x mag. He might have a much lower mag scope. I think at 50x mag on an air rifle at 30yards, you would be able to see the bloody flees running around on the wabbit! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Whilst I can see the benefit in training ones self by using a higher mag, unless you have a really good scope, you are not getting as good a picture and I don't care what anyone says its true - more mag = worse picture. If I can hit rabbits out past 100yds on 10x mag, you don't need anything more closer in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggyRS6 Posted June 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I must say, I turned it back to 10 (it was on 25x) and my shooting is a lot more steady than it used to be at that mag. I have put it back up to 20 as I feel comfortable and confident, even free standing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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