Firearms dept gotta love them.

[fse10]

So i put in for grant of FAC for a S1 shotgun which Essex wanted the land cleared which is not req for fac shotgun according to home office guide lines. Any way had to get the Met to clear it as falls under them met the FEO from the Met & asked him if he would clear it for 22lr/17hmr for rabbit shooting as well as S1 shotgun which he was fine with & said he would let Essex know. Essex granted me the FAC for a  S1 shot gun so sent in a variation for 22lr & 17hmr last week. Had phone call from Essex this morning to say they had no record of the land being cleared for rimfire so for them to grant it i would need to have a different bit of ground or have it checked by Essex FEO, as one of their experienced FEO'S had googled it & would not be happy to grant rimfire on it (is about 10 acres  ). So now have the ball ace of waiting for FEO to do visit even with the Met FEO giving it the ok when i was over there with him. As it happen i have some other ground i can shoot on in Scotland but trying to get the farmer to answer his phone to send me a perm letter is a nightmare as unless you owe him money he never answers but i want the ground down here cleared so i can control the rabbits.

[snow white]

If the farmer in scotland gives you permision it does not let you shot on the other land as your will have a closed ticket.

If you went on the land buy you it would leave you open to prosecution as land as yet not been passed.

That is with 22/17 hmr

Edited March 27, 2018 by snow white

[Lloyd90]

They just make it up as they go along ... 

I’d say speak to BASC but there’s a good chance from my and others personal experience that they’ll just tell you to jump through any hoops the FEO’s make up! 

[Walker570]

1 hour ago, snow white said:

If the farmer in scotland gives you permision it does not let you shot on the other land as your will have a closed ticket.

If you went on the land buy you it would leave you open to prosecution as land as yet not been passed.

That is with 22/17 hmr

Did I read this wrong. I understood it had been passed by the Met FEO. Did you not draw your local FEOs attention to this?

[fse10]

2 hours ago, Walker570 said:

Did I read this wrong. I understood it had been passed by the Met FEO. Did you not draw your local FEOs attention to this?

Yes when i phoned them back as they had left a voice mail to ring them. The lady said she was dealing with my variation request but they had no record of the land being cleared. I told her that Essex had asked the Met to do a land check for the grant of my FAC for the S1 & that when i met him over there i had asked him if he would clear it for rimfire which he said he had no issue with that & would let Essex know. The phone went quite for a minute then she said we have no record of that so will need to be check by Essex. Which seems odd to me as the land comes under the Met which is why Essex wanted them to check it for grant. Might give the Met guy a ring to see if he did let them know. The land i want clearing is in Essex but falls under the Met for policing but i can also shoot on some land in Scotland.

Edited March 27, 2018 by fse10
Add info.

[fse10]

4 hours ago, snow white said:

If the farmer in scotland gives you permision it does not let you shot on the other land as your will have a closed ticket.

If you went on the land buy you it would leave you open to prosecution as land as yet not been passed.

That is with 22/17 hmr

Yes i know this, re the last bit of my post. 

[Luckyshot]

On 27/03/2018 at 15:16, snow white said:

If the farmer in scotland gives you permision it does not let you shot on the other land as your will have a closed ticket.

If you went on the land buy you it would leave you open to prosecution as land as yet not been passed.

That is with 22/17 hmr

All depends on his police force it may be like Durham where they only issue an unrestricted [open] fac.

[walshie]

Sounds a bit odd. Land wouldn't need to be cleared for S1 shotgum. The Met FEO wouldn't have just verbally told Essex he had cleared it for rimfire. The land would have been put on a national database so any force that was interested could see and check. Sounds like he didn't do it.

I'd phone the Met FEO and give him a nudge to do it. 

Edited March 29, 2018 by walshie

[fse10]

5 hours ago, walshie said:

Sounds a bit odd. Land wouldn't need to be cleared for S1 shotgum. The Met FEO wouldn't have just verbally told Essex he had cleared it for rimfire. The land would have been put on a national database so any force that was interested could see and check. Sounds like he didn't do it.

I'd phone the Met FEO and give him a nudge to do it. 

That's what i thought, maybe because it was a grant of a new FAC is all i can think of. I phoned the Met guy today he said it may be down to him getting mixed up & not putting it down correctly, said he would check & phone me on Tuesday to sort it out.

[fse10]

Well phoned the Met  FEO  & he has cleared it & put it on the data base as cleared for rimfire. Phoned Essex firearms dept to see if they granted my variation for the two rimfire rifles & they have said it is on the data base but they still want to send an Essex Feo to check it starting to get on my wick now.