Noble 78 & 80

[Smiler23]

Evening folks, Iv just purchased bit of old reloading gear , anyone got any data there willing to share please? Iv got Nobel 78 & 80, z-21 12 bore wads, and wwa20,.... Z-19...super g wads for 20 bore, cx2000 wads, cheers in advance👍🏻

[matone]

78 & 80 were not for 20b loads .

[Smiler23]

Thanks for reply, that's ok if it's not compatible with 20 bore, I'll use powder just with the 12. Found a little bit of info in the archives, 👍🏻

[dodgyrog]

Nobel 80 burns at a similar speed to Bullseye - I used to use it to load 38 Spl pistol rounds. 78 is faster burning than 80 but I've never seen any let alone used it. 82 is similar to Red Dot should you ever get hold of some.

Edited August 24, 2019 by dodgyrog
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[dipper]

82 is a bit slower than than red dot.

[hawkfanz]

hi smiler pm me with ur email ad,i should av charts stored on pc.

 

[Continental Shooter]

hey,

 

from my grandpa's book:

Nobel G80

Fiocchi 12/70

Fiocchi 615

1,43x28

1,36x32

given the age and state of the powder i would not use the CX primers (least of all the CX2000) as the powder in itself was built to be loaded with RWS primers which were naturally weak; if you add that throughout the years the chemical composition of the powder changes (when sealed) and changes faster when opened, the base should always be the 615 or the NSI 686.

for the NG78 i don't have anything but found this link showing old recipes http://giorgiomuscas.altervista.org/caccia/cariche.html

Tonda = RTO

Stellare = Star Crimp

DFS 645 can be replaced by Fiocchi 615 or NSI686 (better)

i'd start low (as i explained above) and patter test with an eye out for signs of overpressure

 

Cheers,

[Eightbore]

This may help you, scan of part of the original data sheets.

[Guest cookoff013]

Wow !

[bishop]

i've been using 82 on and off for a few seasons.grew up loading this stuff for my first fowling trips out with the old man  as a  boy and pigeon shooting homeoads too!.The smell always takes me   back through the years.

[Smiler23]

What wads do you use bishop, the data I have uses Kleena or plaswad, both of which I'm led to believe no longer in production. I have 1 bit of data I'm going to try using the gualandi super-g

[bishop]

12ga Gualandi LBC-48 Wad

Ideal for loading non-toxic shot in a 76mm PT case.12 ga Gualandi LBC-48 Wad. These Limited Bored Contact wads are ideal for loading steel shot up to 4.0mm as well as ITM, Bismuth and Powershot. These wads will load: 53 grams of Lead shot, 49 grams of Powershot, 35 grams of Steel Shot and 46 grams of ITX. These wads must be slit 4 ways before loading.

 

Done quite a few  with this wad.It works just fine.     Read this https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=66152  ive used a few with 46g lead inland.same as it always was .good stopping power 

 

27 grains ive used but i suspect 28 grains would not go wrong.Certainly not an overly aggressive load with 27.

[Smiler23]

Thanks for that bishop👍🏻.