Never buy a Vauxhall Corsa

[BSA Shaun]

Had a pretty bad RTA on Sunday which shook me up no end and really made me not want to drive again.

 

Coming round a 40mph road which has an S Bend, In the discovery so no real speed, get to the bottom of the bend and there is a car just sat there, no brake lights no indicator nothing.

 

First instinct was it was moving but slowly, but a horror millisecond later I realised it was stationary in the middle of the road. anyway, slammed the brakes on but had nowhere to go, ended up in the rear end of the said car, a Vauxhall Corsa.

 

Good news was no one was hurt, but please to anyone, don't get one of these cars, I must have hit it at no more than 10mph and the whole rear end crumpled like a wet cardboard box.

 

A truly horrible experience, and had to drive to the station this morning to get my train to work, nerves are well and truly shot

[darren_mc]

Had a pretty bad RTA on Sunday which shook me up no end and really made me not want to drive again.

 

Coming round a 40mph road which has an S Bend, In the discovery so no real speed, get to the bottom of the bend and there is a car just sat there, no brake lights no indicator nothing.

 

First instinct was it was moving but slowly, but a horror millisecond later I realised it was stationary in the middle of the road. anyway, slammed the brakes on but had nowhere to go, ended up in the rear end of the said car, a Vauxhall Corsa.

 

Good news was no one was hurt, but please to anyone, don't get one of these cars, I must have hit it at no more than 10mph and the whole rear end crumpled like a wet cardboard box.

 

A truly horrible experience, and had to drive to the station this morning to get my train to work, nerves are well and truly shot

 

 

 

how did the land rover do is it ok

[BSA Shaun]

Had a pretty bad RTA on Sunday which shook me up no end and really made me not want to drive again.

 

Coming round a 40mph road which has an S Bend, In the discovery so no real speed, get to the bottom of the bend and there is a car just sat there, no brake lights no indicator nothing.

 

First instinct was it was moving but slowly, but a horror millisecond later I realised it was stationary in the middle of the road. anyway, slammed the brakes on but had nowhere to go, ended up in the rear end of the said car, a Vauxhall Corsa.

 

Good news was no one was hurt, but please to anyone, don't get one of these cars, I must have hit it at no more than 10mph and the whole rear end crumpled like a wet cardboard box.

 

A truly horrible experience, and had to drive to the station this morning to get my train to work, nerves are well and truly shot

 

 

 

how did the land rover do is it ok

 

Its a bit twisted, needs bonnet pushing down a bit, wing bending back in, bumper pulling out, headlamp bulkhead bit twisting back into shape.

 

Sellng it as spare or repair mate, don't really want to drive it again mate

[BSA Shaun]

Had a pretty bad RTA on Sunday which shook me up no end and really made me not want to drive again.

 

Coming round a 40mph road which has an S Bend, In the discovery so no real speed, get to the bottom of the bend and there is a car just sat there, no brake lights no indicator nothing.

 

First instinct was it was moving but slowly, but a horror millisecond later I realised it was stationary in the middle of the road. anyway, slammed the brakes on but had nowhere to go, ended up in the rear end of the said car, a Vauxhall Corsa.

 

Good news was no one was hurt, but please to anyone, don't get one of these cars, I must have hit it at no more than 10mph and the whole rear end crumpled like a wet cardboard box.

 

A truly horrible experience, and had to drive to the station this morning to get my train to work, nerves are well and truly shot

So sorry to hear that why was the car sat there in the first place, stupid if you ask me, anyway main thing no one hurt but insurance no clame discounts I know its hard but try not to dwell on it and get straight back behind the wheel and drive take it easy mate

 

Apparently turning right, said "I indicated 200 yds down the road", well that's great but 1- it would have cancelled because the last turn on the S bend is left, and 2- I was not following the car so no good to me, 3- it wasn't on when I got there!

[Dunkield]

Cars look soft when they do that, but that is exactly what they are designed to do :(

When they fold like that they are absorbing the energy that would otherwise have been transferred to the occupants.

 

I whacked a car that jumped a red light in my Golf and there was nothing left of the Golf from the windscreen forward.

As it was almost new, they actually re-built and handed it to someone else in our company to carry on driving for 2 years

 

I am sorry to say, as you hit them up the back, you will almost certainly get the blame for the accident.

[BSA Shaun]

Cars look soft when they do that, but that is exactly what they are designed to do :(

When they fold like that they are absorbing the energy that would otherwise have been transferred to the occupants.

 

I whacked a car that jumped a red light in my Golf and there was nothing left of the Golf from the windscreen forward.

As it was almost new, they actually re-built and handed it to someone else in our company to carry on driving for 2 years

 

I am sorry to say, as you hit them up the back, you will almost certainly get the blame for the accident.

 

 

I have already come to terms with that one mate, as is usually the case.

[caplock]

Sorry to hear that Shaun, the Disco looked a good 'un when we met last week. As you say the main thing is that no one was hurt and it's only bent metal.

Hope you're alright, all the best John

[BSA Shaun]

Thanks mate, I'm OK, just a bit of a shocker, glad the littluns weren't in the car.

[monkeyjaimz]

Sorry to hear about that shaun mate :(

I had a similar nasty bang about 3 years ago - did me good in the long run, theres no substitute for experiance at the end of the day mate.

Like you said, nobody was hurt and the kids were'nt in the car at the time

[al4x]

As said the corsa did exactly what it was meant to, sadly these things do happen and in a way they increase your forward perception to hazards. However be prepared for the legal side of this which nearly always happens when you rear end someone at least in this case it is likely to be justified. Odds are you will get a no win no fee solicitor after your insurance we've just had one settled which was fraud yet there was nothing we could do about it. Involved a driver of ours and a Mohamed Abdul Ali basically the driver lightly tapped his car not enough to do any damage to our vehicle but slightly dented his vehicle bumper. 6 Months later the no win no fee tossers got involved and there was no defence driver no longer worked for us and had moved from his last address, vehicle had been disposed of so in the end it settled for 8K amazing the damage to the other parties car by the time the insurance looked at it!

So make sure you have photos etc and a clear statement of what happened and don't be shocked when the forms suing you drop onto the doormat, just pass them onto your insurers and they will probably not contest it as its fairly cut and dried

[njc110381]

The old rule "crashing into the back of someone means you're in the wrong" has long gone. If he was just stopped, with no lights indicating his intentions, I'd say you should be ok. Also being on a bend helps you, as you didn't know he was there until it was too late (if you see a car, not braking or indicating, you have no reason to think it's stopped do you?). Don't back down, you're not in the wrong so don't let the **** walk all over you. Get back in your landy and carry on, there will always be plonkers on the road and you can't let them put you off. Just be glad nobody was hurt.

[al4x]

sitting at a junction stationary with the hand brake on doesn't give free reign for someone to rear end you. I handle a lot of cases through work and this is just unlucky but will go against the driver that did the running in the back,

[BSA Shaun]

At the end of the day, its an accident.

 

I am aware that I will get the blame, I am also aware of the lack of "free reign to rear end someone".

[al4x]

the legal side can come as a bit shocking as everything including court papers etc if you get a whiplash claim comes addressed to you. just don't worry about it and forward onto your insurers. Good luck you'll be amazed just how long it drags on for

[Catamong]

The old rule "crashing into the back of someone means you're in the wrong" has long gone. If he was just stopped, with no lights indicating his intentions, I'd say you should be ok. Also being on a bend helps you, as you didn't know he was there until it was too late (if you see a car, not braking or indicating, you have no reason to think it's stopped do you?). Don't back down, you're not in the wrong so don't let the **** walk all over you. Get back in your landy and carry on, there will always be plonkers on the road and you can't let them put you off. Just be glad nobody was hurt.

 

What a misleading post this one is, since when has the law been changed to allow people to run into the back of others..??

 

It looks like Shaun was travelling too fast for the prevailing road conditions, there's no excuses on this one, except perhaps if the Corsa came flying back around the bend in reverse gear, but it was stationery, so it appears that the Corsa driver was not at fault.

 

Cat.

[BSA Shaun]

The old rule "crashing into the back of someone means you're in the wrong" has long gone. If he was just stopped, with no lights indicating his intentions, I'd say you should be ok. Also being on a bend helps you, as you didn't know he was there until it was too late (if you see a car, not braking or indicating, you have no reason to think it's stopped do you?). Don't back down, you're not in the wrong so don't let the **** walk all over you. Get back in your landy and carry on, there will always be plonkers on the road and you can't let them put you off. Just be glad nobody was hurt.

 

What a misleading post this one is, since when has the law been changed to allow people to run into the back of others..??

 

It looks like Shaun was travelling too fast for the prevailing road conditions, there's no excuses on this one, except perhaps if the Corsa came flying back around the bend in reverse gear, but it was stationery, so it appears that the Corsa driver was not at fault.

 

Cat.

 

I was not trying to blame anyone, just saying how those few seconds you have to react can be misjudged, i.e first instinct is to look for brake lights etc.

[dunganick]

to be honest, insurance companies arnt half as complex as this topic makes out, ive had some unfortunate dealings with them recently after an RTA, I basically went into the side of a guy who pulled across the road without looking, However i came around a blind corner to find this.

 

All the cared was, 'was he moving'

 

Thats all, he was, so he moved into my path as i was already on the main road.

 

As the other car was stationary and you hit the back of him im affraid it will almost certainly be your fault as far as the insurance companies are concerned.

 

You now have the joy of insurance companies to deal with. I had my accident 3.5 months ago, the other driver has not been answering any calls or letters, so his insurance company are acting on his behalf.

 

I am waiting now for them to'recover all of their costs' so i can effectively have my no claims back.

 

Its a joke. But my car was a write off and im glad to say that has all been sorted long ago.

 

At least no-one was hurt. Thats all that matters.

[njc110381]

I was just stating that in some situations you can "rear end" someone and not be in the wrong. I don't know the layout of the road so cannot be certain, but I can't see how this is all shauns fault. If you're stopped you should be signalling in one way or another. I'm not that legally minded, but I have some idea of the rules. I was in a similar situation a few years back, and it wasn't my insurance that paid out. I can only judge by my experiences, so I may be wrong. Let us know how it goes.

 

EDIT... :( That's what I got round it on. If he wasn't signalling, maybe your insurance company can work on that rule. Mine did, and won. I wasn't driving too fast, and the person I hit wasn't showing good reason to be stopped where she was

[BSA Shaun]

Thing is I have given all details to insurance and will now let them deal with it.

 

I just want to forget the whole thing and move on, don't really worry that I will get the blame, already know this. Yeah I feel pretty bad about it, but surely things like this happen every day?

 

Not like I have committed murder!

[njc110381]

I think the phrase is "**** happens". Nobody was hurt, so it doesn't matter that much. Most of us have had a knock at some point, and most of the time it's just down to bad luck for both parties. I wouldn't be worrying about driving though, it will just make you more cautious which isn't a bad thing

[BSA Shaun]

it will just make you more cautious which isn't a bad thing

 

 

Too true, sometimes the harshest lessons are the most productive

[Teal]

I had a crash 2 months ago. Was driving defender round a private road blind corner at about 20mph, it was always clear but not this day.. saab coming the other way. Slammed the brakes, but sand underneath meant I just skidded into the front of it, as it's brakes were superior it had managed to stop. A new bumper was got for the defender (£40), but the saab's front was bad and it was written off (5 years old). It's made me completely re-evaluate my driving and I'm a much more relaxed and cautious driver as a result.

I hear what you are saying about cars crumpling, my collision must have been at 5mph, but I think the high bumper on the defender meant the damage was greater. Other than the sickening thud, neither car was aware we had crashed.

[BSA Shaun]

I thank you all for your comments and think it best if admin closes this topic, I feel I have got some off my chest and the time has come to get on with it.

 

Admin if you could please.