Cci .22lr clean subs

[simon1979]

Hi all

Any one using cci. 22lr clean subs for rabbits?

It seems a accurate round but out to 70-80 yards it takes a second shot to kill them.

Just wondering what other users thought?  Normally use Winchester sub hollow points but the gun shop talked me into these. 

 

Atb

Simon

[Fisheruk]

Doesn’t look like they’d expand. I stick with hollow point for everything I shoot, can’t see the logic of shooting a rabbit and needing a follow up shot. I reckon your gun shop was wanting to off load them. I haven’t cleaned any of my .22lrs for literally years, apart from the actual bolt. The barrel fouling doesn’t seem to affect accuracy and I literally use thousands of rounds through 3 different guns. My semi auto needs more attention to the bolt mechanism than the others but that wouldn’t cycle properly with subs 🤷so I can’t see the point of a clean round in 22lr. I use Winchester, Ely and CCI - all hollow point and subs.

[simon1979]

4 minutes ago, Fisheruk said:

Doesn’t look like they’d expand. I stick with hollow point for everything I shoot, can’t see the logic of shooting a rabbit and needing a follow up shot. I reckon your gun shop was wanting to off load them. I haven’t cleaned any of my .22lrs for literally years, apart from the actual bolt. The barrel fouling doesn’t seem to affect accuracy and I literally use thousands of rounds through 3 different guns. My semi auto needs more attention to the bolt mechanism than the others but that wouldn’t cycle properly with subs 🤷so I can’t see the point of a clean round in 22lr. I use Winchester, Ely and CCI - all hollow point and subs.

Hi

Yes dont like the fact they need a follow up shot. Unfortunately I took the shops advice a brought 500.

Looks like another trip to the gun shop, will go back to Winchester subs

 

[London Best]

45 minutes ago, simon1979 said:

Hi

Yes dont like the fact they need a follow up shot. Unfortunately I took the shops advice a brought 500.

Looks like another trip to the gun shop, will go back to Winchester subs

 

Do you not head shoot your rabbits? Even an air gun pellet works just there.

[walshie]

It says on the box "target". Not sure why anyone would need subs to shoot targets. 

[Gas seal]

Hi the rounds you are using will be better for semi autos and for target shooting. Target shooters will use subsonic for accuracy . If shooting hundreds of rounds in semi autos it would help keep it clean. If you can hit rabbits in the head at 70to80 yards it doesn’t matter if you use round nose or hollow point. If you are hitting them in the body at that range you will better using CCI segmented. I use CCI subsonic segmented and l take chest shots as the rounds fragment better hitting soft a spot . The rounds I prefer ( up to 50 yards) is CCI quiet segmented, it’s 710 feet per second. Not because it’s quiet, its very quiet, but the segments stay in the rabbit. I know air guns will kill rabbits out to 50 yards I use them but I prefer quiet segmented and chest shots. They don’t cycle in semi autos it states that on the box. 

[Fisheruk]

2 hours ago, simon1979 said:

Hi

Yes dont like the fact they need a follow up shot. Unfortunately I took the shops advice a brought 500.

Looks like another trip to the gun shop, will go back to Winchester subs

 

They should take back what you haven’t opened and swap them

[Fisheruk]

1 hour ago, London Best said:

Do you not head shoot your rabbits? Even an air gun pellet works just there.

I never bother with head shots at a distance walking around with a pair of sticks and or leaning against a tree or gate post to steady, I find heart and lung shots are best. It’s different when you are close range with an air rifle you can get up closer for a head shot. The skull of a rabbit is very thin and easily penetrated with an air gun pellet, whereas the extra power from .22lr does the job more easily with a H&L shot.

[simon1979]

12 minutes ago, Fisheruk said:

I never bother with head shots at a distance walking around with a pair of sticks and or leaning against a tree or gate post to steady, I find heart and lung shots are best. It’s different when you are close range with an air rifle you can get up closer for a head shot. The skull of a rabbit is very thin and easily penetrated with an air gun pellet, whereas the extra power from .22lr does the job more easily with a H&L shot.

G

Hi,

Yeh find head shot at distance off sticks tricy so normally center of mass which wasn't a problem with my Winchester subs.

I brought them a while ago so probably can't swap them, will just put up for sale.

 

Thanks for input, really helpful 

Simon 

[mossy835]

when i had my rifles i used them on rabbits, and they were a very good round thats all i used.

[London Best]

2 hours ago, Fisheruk said:

The skull of a rabbit is very thin and easily penetrated with an air gun pellet, whereas the extra power from .22lr does the job more easily with a H&L shot.

And scraps the carcass.

[Fisheruk]

7 hours ago, London Best said:

And scraps the carcass.

Depends what you want. The 22 will normally go straight through and leave usable meat, not like the damage from 17HMR. I never have a problem with people taking them from me. The lighter pellet from an air rifle would normally stay in the body, so I understand your point.

[Gas seal]

Hi yes the.22 in round nose or hollow point will go through, head or body. I have shot rabbits for many years using ferrets, large hobs,And  using shotguns and.22 rime fire. This is in summer time in large warrens in valleys, grazing for livestock so short grass. When three or four large strong ferrets are working a Warren the rabbits will (hop out) a few feet and stop if using a shot gun the ferret could appear as the rabbit is shot and could be hit. I use a .22 r f and chest shots and they don’t move far. With head shots they spring into the air and bounce all over the place ,while other rabbits are (bolting). The 22 and chest shots are better. If the carcass is important long nets or trapping would be better, that’s hard work.