Chris Clayshooter Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 I have a 28 guage Armsan Semi Auto brought second hand and it hasnt done much work so I put a couple hundred 28 gramme shells through it to loosen it up but I find it will not cycle 24 Gramme fibre loads if I go back to 28 Gramme loads it recycles fine I keep it clean and very lightly oiled ,Any Ideas ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr grumpy Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 Buy a beretta😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 I know the grief...I think! After all if it needs 28 gram loads to work all you've now got is a lighter profile 20 Bore but firing expensive cartridges. Like all these things I'd email the importers. If gas operated or recoil operated I'd guess there will be a means to lighten the force needed to make the gun cycle so as to drive the breech block fully back. Ask the importers or try You Tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 My armsan a620 (20 bore ) will cycle 24 grm loads fine but struggles with 21 grm loads . Your 28 b should cycle 21 grms It really shouldn't need 28 grm to work . Something wrong me thinks . Is the oring split .if so it will leak air forwards instead of driving the piston /bolt .backwards fully . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted July 3, 2021 Report Share Posted July 3, 2021 On 01/07/2021 at 20:57, Mr grumpy said: Buy a beretta😬 and they are perfect are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr grumpy Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 No.but they are of a far better quality and properly engineered.not after an argument mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 You say that you keep it clean but are the gas ports clean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 On 04/07/2021 at 18:22, Mr grumpy said: No.but they are of a far better quality and properly engineered.not after an argument mate. as it happens ive got an a300 bought new ten years ago,it cost me £850,the blacking is 3rd rate,the wood resembles a pallet,but its reliable....i also have an a620 armsan,cost £395,it shoots just same as the beretta for half the price,even cheap turkish guns have better finished barrels an wood than the outlander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve brownell Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 I have the same thing with my sons 28g armsan they are cheap Turkish rubbish but with a 28g load they work well and kill well my boy loves it I have offered to buy him a 20g bretta or browning semi to replace it and he wants to keep it so I looks like 28grams is the way forward I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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