12gauge82 Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, ordnance said: I don't think i said NATO troops should have stayed there for ever the one sided surrender was the disaster, and that was on Trumps watch. Leaving wasn't the issue, the way Biden did it was, he didn't even inform us before he pulled the plug which endangered our own service personnel. The guys an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: Leaving wasn't the issue, the way Biden did it was, he didn't even inform us before he pulled the plug which endangered our own service personnel. The guys an idiot. I am not going to disagree that Biden's a idiot, he is in good company with the previous president. As for not informing us, was it not sort of common knowledge when America was withdrawing, they had given a date when they were running up the white flag. Edited September 5, 2021 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 50 minutes ago, ordnance said: I am not going to disagree that Biden's a idiot, he is in good company with the previous president. As for not informing us, was it not sort of common knowledge when America was withdrawing, they had given a date when they were running up the white flag. No it wasn't, they left overnight after shuting the power off, the British and afganis only found out after the bulk had gone. Not allowing the afganis time to prepare and risking everyone's lives. I used to think trump was an idiot, but compared to Biden he's like Einstein! Biden has the blood of all those who died on his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: No it wasn't, they left overnight after shuting the power off, the British and afganis only found out after the bulk had gone. Not allowing the afganis time to prepare and risking everyone's lives. I used to think trump was an idiot, but compared to Biden he's like Einstein! Biden has the blood of all those who died on his hands. The air base, did Biden instruct them to do that, or was it a military decision. My point is everyone seems to be pointing the finger at Biden, who i agree is a babbling idiot, but it all flowed from Trumps surrender to the Taliban. There is plenty of blame to go around. Edited September 5, 2021 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 hour ago, ordnance said: The air base, did Biden instruct them to do that, or was it a military decision. My point is everyone seems to be pointing the finger at Biden, who i agree is a babbling idiot, but it all flowed from Trumps surrender to the Taliban. There is plenty of blame to go around. Doesn't matter though what Trump agreed to, American troops had been in Afghanistan right through his Term and he was pulling them out, and quite rightly. It's the way they've just left that's the problem, Biden could have done it any way he wanted, its like he got a phone call from the Taliban saying right clear off then, we're ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 Quote It's the way they've just left that's the problem, Biden could have done it any way he wanted, its like he got a phone call from the Taliban saying right clear off then, we're ready. Or a phone call asking him to abide by the surrender they had agreed, don't forget America / Trump went to the Taliban looking a deal not the other way round. As i said there is plenty of blame to go around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) a **** storm no good will come of it Edited September 13, 2021 by Saltings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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