30-6 Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 One of the best tunnel trap locations using fenn 4's I have for rats unbaited in a farmyard is on a water trough. Other locations sometimes need a baited trap , which I like to try different baits. Has anyone tried water as bait ? I was thinking a cap off a coffee jar or similar in a blind tunnel set up, so rat has to cross the trigger plate. I imagine they can smell / sense water. Food, water and shelter, rat heaven. Any thoughts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 I think you are over thinking things, if you need to bait then Peanut Butter. I have never baited a Fenn Trap just sited them on proven runs for Mink, Squirrel and Rats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted May 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 Not over thinking, just like trying different baits. Have caught rats on all the usual baits, plus jelly babies, marshmallows and nougat bars to name a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 It’s worth a try 😊👍 although it could possibly have a negative effect as they may smell water in the shelter and not go in what wants a wet shelter just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 At the stables I use to use sections of Mars Bars to good effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 hours ago, pigeon controller said: At the stables I use to use sections of Mars Bars to good effect. Going slightly off the species , I did read in one of the Pigeon shooting books about decoying around water drinkers , the type cattle use , I have never done it and don't know of anyone who have . Have you tried it ? , and what are your thoughts about decoying around areas used for drinking ? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 31 minutes ago, marsh man said: Going slightly off the species , I did read in one of the Pigeon shooting books about decoying around water drinkers , the type cattle use , I have never done it and don't know of anyone who have . Have you tried it ? , and what are your thoughts about decoying around areas used for drinking ? . I have shot pigeon coming to a trough a few times, but never needed decoys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted May 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 I have read, I think it was Peter Theobald, shooting pigeons coming to water. I would imagine this would be during unusually hot weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, 30-6 said: I have read, I think it was Peter Theobald, shooting pigeons coming to water. I would imagine this would be during unusually hot weather. Yes, very hot weather when pigeons had been feeding on barley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 7 hours ago, London Best said: Yes, very hot weather when pigeons had been feeding on barley. Yes , Pigeons along with most forms of wild life needs water and like you say they need it more in very hot weather , this could be the reason that a lot of Pigeons , not all as some members will say they have shot them all day long in very hot weather , will stay in the shade of the leaves in the woods until the sun start to dip , it would also make a difference with the amount of water on offer , we have got miles and miles of marshland that hold livestock in the Summer months and the dyke level is raised to let the animals drink from the marsh without going into the dyke , the dyke level would be the same around the crop fields so the Pigeons have got a choice to go wherever they want to quench there thirst , so waiting for them on the marshland around a watering hole wouldn't be very productive . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 I have decoyed around water troughs on sheep clover fields and also redundant cow drinks on downed barley fields as the birds required both food and water on hot days. Fishing the Delph in the summer lots of birds would drop on the waters edge to drink in extreme heat, pigeons and corvids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted May 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 An update, after a couple of weeks in a blind tunnel in a ratty area with droppings, there has been no interest in the water bait. On the plus side, about 2 yds away, I noticed moss growing on some wooden sleepers had been scratched loose. Between the sleepers and a wall there was a little opening, put a fenn 4 sunk into the ground covered in a bit of moss outside, put some wire mesh over the top and made the entrance rat size with stones holding it down. First night had a catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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