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Mung, have you considered a HD projector? I've ceiling mounted one and now have a 96" screen, which is nice. Conected to a home cinema system (850watts of surround sound) and a Sky HD box, it does the job and then some.

 

Picture from a cameram phone, so not the best quality but I think you get the idea.

 

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Mung, have you considered a HD projector? I've ceiling mounted one and now have a 96" screen, which is nice. Conected to a home cinema system (850watts of surround sound) and a Sky HD box, it does the job and then some.

 

Picture from a cameram phone, so not the best quality but I think you get the idea.

 

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Great picture that you even got Lampard in it who I thought was invisible..............oh no that's just when he puts an england shirt on!

 

Hope your living room is big, otherwise isn't that a bit of overkill?

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^ WOW! Silly question time. Does the wall have to be white?

 

 

(I too have technology equivalent to a 9"" Bush, oh no, wait, mines much smaller!)

 

How much for the projector jobbie? Will it work in a small room, or does that cut down the screen size? Does looking up at the wall like that give you neck ache?

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Phillips are doing some great hd lcd's these days. They were marketing one that was designed for sport (higher refresh rate or something I believe?). Anyway I bought one of these about 9 months ago in 32", having watched on some mates tellys, some supposedly more upmarket brands I would stick to the philips anyday. Im no techie expert but thats my 2p worth. <_<

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Mung, have you considered a HD projector? I've ceiling mounted one and now have a 96" screen, which is nice. Conected to a home cinema system (850watts of surround sound) and a Sky HD box, it does the job and then some.

 

Picture from a cameram phone, so not the best quality but I think you get the idea.

 

10122006117.jpg

 

Great picture that you even got Lampard in it who I thought was invisible..............oh no that's just when he puts an england shirt on!

 

Hope your living room is big, otherwise isn't that a bit of overkill?

 

It not in the living room, this is a spare bedroom (appx 12' x 12') that's is solely used as my boy's room. Equiped with two seater couch, two side units (for resting beer on), coffee table-*** storage unit (for resting feet on/storing beer in) and the media unit (for placing of av type stuff on/storing DVDs in)

 

 

^ WOW! Silly question time. Does the wall have to be white?

 

 

(I too have technology equivalent to a 9"" Bush, oh no, wait, mines much smaller!)

 

How much for the projector jobbie? Will it work in a small room, or does that cut down the screen size? Does looking up at the wall like that give you neck ache?

 

No, the wall doesn't have to be white, that's straight on to magnolia emulsion. I originally thought that I'd either put up a light weight fixed screen, or I was considering fine 'Wet & Drying' the wall and then re-painting a screen sized area with 'HD Ready' screen paint <_< . The best image is obtained from matt white or grey backgrounds and a matt black boarder around the viewing area will help add to the percieved contrast, by absorbing over-spilled light. But to be honest, I was already happy with the result and too lazy to do anything to improve it.

 

HD projectors from under £5-600 and go upwards, to thousands. The one I'm using is a Hitachi PJ-TX200 (available from £680 or less). Generaly, the further away from a screen that the projector is mounted, the larger the image (within the capability of the machine's light source) will be. Mine also has adjustable side shift, tomb stone, magification and focus and I can bring the image down to appx a 36" size, if needed.

 

As for looking up; when you're re-clined on the crouch, your natural sight-plane is actually slightly upwards anyway. I find it more natural to be head back and looking up, than head back and looking down at a TV set.

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I wouldn't go for a projector:

1) You can buy a plasma for the same sort of money.

2) When the bulb dies, they cost a few hundred to replace, in some cases its actually cheaper to buy a new projector than to buy a replacement bulb.

 

Lamp bulb for my projector lasts min of 2,000 hours and costs about 5 1/2 pence an hour to run.

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Bulb life puts me off the projectors, as does outside light issues and black levels, however its not my area and some i have seen are very impressive.

 

The pioneer plasma 1080P is intresting, not seen one yet, would love to, one of the very first 1080p plasma's

 

Personally ive got a Pansonic 32" and cheapo JVC surround sound, Cost me £10 <_< but still has 750watts of power for a room which is about 3m by 4m.

 

A note about cables, there are alot fo engineers out there who will tell you not to waste your money on premium leads, and if your going to be playing a standard deffinition dvd/vhs or play station 2 etc... fair play, but if you want HD or even using an upscalling DVD player spend £40 and get a good HDMI lead or component lead, silly to spend 1K+ and then ruin the picture for the sake of a £40 component.

 

If you look at seriously well kitted out AV setups they run off special power supplys which remove interferance and are spending an absolute fortune on premium leads. Tell them it dosent make a difference.

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A note about cables, there are alot fo engineers out there who will tell you not to waste your money on premium leads, and if your going to be playing a standard deffinition dvd/vhs or play station 2 etc... fair play, but if you want HD or even using an upscalling DVD player spend £40 and get a good HDMI lead or component lead, silly to spend 1K+ and then ruin the picture for the sake of a £40 component.

 

If you look at seriously well kitted out AV setups they run off special power supplys which remove interferance and are spending an absolute fortune on premium leads. Tell them it dosent make a difference.

 

Hrm, don't agree. If you are doing daft things with 1440p/WQXGA, you are into distributing HDMI via dual CAT5 (or something equally sick) or you have large cable runs, don't worry about it, it simply isn't going to make any difference you will see. Doing 1080p with deep colour at high refresh rates, maybe make sure you have a cable which meets the HDMI 1.3 spec.

 

That is unless you are someone who lies awake worrying about intersymbol interference :blink:

 

Edit: I was only on about digital, fair comment on analogue cables <_<

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A note about cables, there are alot fo engineers out there who will tell you not to waste your money on premium leads, and if your going to be playing a standard deffinition dvd/vhs or play station 2 etc... fair play, but if you want HD or even using an upscalling DVD player spend £40 and get a good HDMI lead or component lead, silly to spend 1K+ and then ruin the picture for the sake of a £40 component.

 

If you look at seriously well kitted out AV setups they run off special power supplys which remove interferance and are spending an absolute fortune on premium leads. Tell them it dosent make a difference.

 

Hrm, don't agree. If you are doing daft things with 1440p/WQXGA, you are into distributing HDMI via dual CAT5 (or something equally sick) or you have large cable runs, don't worry about it, it simply isn't going to make any difference you will see. Doing 1080p with deep colour at high refresh rates, maybe make sure you have a cable which meets the HDMI 1.3 spec.

 

That is unless you are someone who lies awake worrying about intersymbol interference ???

 

Edit: I was only on about digital, fair comment on analogue cables :)

 

 

<_< Now I'm really lost :blink:

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A note about cables, there are alot fo engineers out there who will tell you not to waste your money on premium leads, and if your going to be playing a standard deffinition dvd/vhs or play station 2 etc... fair play, but if you want HD or even using an upscalling DVD player spend £40 and get a good HDMI lead or component lead, silly to spend 1K+ and then ruin the picture for the sake of a £40 component.

 

If you look at seriously well kitted out AV setups they run off special power supplys which remove interferance and are spending an absolute fortune on premium leads. Tell them it dosent make a difference.

 

Hrm, don't agree. If you are doing daft things with 1440p/WQXGA, you are into distributing HDMI via dual CAT5 (or something equally sick) or you have large cable runs, don't worry about it, it simply isn't going to make any difference you will see. Doing 1080p with deep colour at high refresh rates, maybe make sure you have a cable which meets the HDMI 1.3 spec.

 

That is unless you are someone who lies awake worrying about intersymbol interference :blink:

 

Edit: I was only on about digital, fair comment on analogue cables <_<

 

All i can say is ive seen the difference, the premium cables from good makes on a 1080p source (1.3 standard naturally) are a step above the Logik or off the shelf tat. I use a panasonic 1.3 Hdmi for my upscaller and ive borrowed a decent pure av lead (not actually that good a make imho) but it did make a noticeable difference.

 

It will always be an area that no-one agree's on, personally ive had my mind persuaded one way, and im going to take some convincing otherwise lol.

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A note about cables, there are alot fo engineers out there who will tell you not to waste your money on premium leads, and if your going to be playing a standard deffinition dvd/vhs or play station 2 etc... fair play, but if you want HD or even using an upscalling DVD player spend £40 and get a good HDMI lead or component lead, silly to spend 1K+ and then ruin the picture for the sake of a £40 component.

 

If you look at seriously well kitted out AV setups they run off special power supplys which remove interferance and are spending an absolute fortune on premium leads. Tell them it dosent make a difference.

 

Hrm, don't agree. If you are doing daft things with 1440p/WQXGA, you are into distributing HDMI via dual CAT5 (or something equally sick) or you have large cable runs, don't worry about it, it simply isn't going to make any difference you will see. Doing 1080p with deep colour at high refresh rates, maybe make sure you have a cable which meets the HDMI 1.3 spec.

 

That is unless you are someone who lies awake worrying about intersymbol interference :mad:

 

Edit: I was only on about digital, fair comment on analogue cables :good:

 

All i can say is ive seen the difference, the premium cables from good makes on a 1080p source (1.3 standard naturally) are a step above the Logik or off the shelf tat. I use a panasonic 1.3 Hdmi for my upscaller and ive borrowed a decent pure av lead (not actually that good a make imho) but it did make a noticeable difference.

 

It will always be an area that no-one agree's on, personally ive had my mind persuaded one way, and im going to take some convincing otherwise lol.

 

A 99p cable is exactly the same as a £200 cable, all they do is send 1's and 0's to the TV. Although the length of the cable can make a difference, so thats probably why you have noticed a difference.

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FREEVIEW included

All Tevion HD TVs now include ‘built-in’ Freeview, which means you will have a greater number of Digital channels (and radio programmes) to choose from in an instant. Plus, thanks to the RED button facility, you can interact with your TV, actually taking part in the programme you’re watching.

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http://www.aldi-stores.co.uk/ £ 569.99 £ 569.99 £ 569.99 40" Free wall bracket Free wall bracket

this"""""" Sunday"""""" and they will sell out they always do get good reviews for the price ....One of the best looking TVs we’ve ever sold. HD ready LCD TV with integrated DVB-T tuner.

40"

* HD ready (480i/p, 720i/p, 1080i)

* 2 × HDMI sockets (including HDCP decoding)

* Integrated DVB-T tuner for all Freeview channels

* Nicam stereo

* Teletext with 1000 page memory

* EPG (Electronic Programme Guide)

* Response time : 8ms (grey to grey.typ)

* Viewing angle: 178° H/150° v (typ)

* Contrast ratio: 1200:1 (typ)

* Brightness: 500cd/m2 (typ)

* Physical resolution: 1366 × 768

* PIP (Picture in Picture) and PBP (Picture by Picture) via external source

* Picture improvements by CTI, 3D comb filter

* Noise reduction

* 200 programme storage locations

* Automatic programme search with automatic storage

* Picture Formats: 16:9, 4:3, Panorama, 14:9 Zoom, Cinema, Subtitle, Auto

* Swap function

* Child lock

* 5 favourite lists

* Sleep timer

* Sound effects: Jazz, Rock, Pop, User, Classic, Normal

* 5 band equaliser

* Surround sound

* Speakers: 2 × 8 watts (RMS)

* Video sockets: 2 × HDMI in (incl. HDCP decoding), VGA (15 pin D-sub), YUV (component) (3 RCSA), 2 SCART. S-Video in (Mini DIN), composite video (1 RCA)

* Audio sockets: Stereo audio in for PC, stereo audio in for composite video (2 RCA), stereo audio in for YUV (2 RCA), stereo headphone jack (3.5mm plug)

* Accessories: Free wall bracket, free 5-in-1 universal remote control (inc. batteries), power cord

* Weight: 24kg (with stand)/20kg (without stand)

 

HD – detail like you’ve never seen before

High Definition is the greatest advancement in television technology since black and white changed to colour. A TV bearing the ‘HD Ready’ logo has the ability to display High Definition broadcasts of 720 or 1080 lines, as opposed to ‘standard’ broadcasts of 625 lines. The detail HD delivers is staggering. A HD screen contains more pixels which allows you to see every blade of grass, every thread, every feather in crystal clear clarity.

 

FREEVIEW included

All Tevion HD TVs now include ‘built-in’ Freeview, which means you will have a greater number of Digital channels (and radio programmes) to choose from in an instant. Plus, thanks to the RED button facility, you can interact with your TV, actually taking part in the programme you’re watching.

 

Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole :good:

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the other i know what ive read thats all !!! looks cheep with 3 year cover !!! ITS GOT 3 YEARS COVER !!!

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http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw...ull&tm=null

LG 42PC56 42" HD Ready 100Hz digital Plasma TV £600

ref the aldi one a 2 page thread make your own mind up http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=577984

"Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole" without saying why is little help

i myself have an LG 42" i payed a lot more than 600 notes but ive had it a while its been great so A lg get a thumbs up from me

the other i know what ive read thats all !!! looks cheep with 3 year cover !!!

 

For starters never buy electronics from Aldi, its all poor stuff.

Secondly its made by Tevion who make cheap equipment, if you pay a few hundred quid for a plasma expect it to fail after a few months. I also have doubts about its HD setup.

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i will hold my ground on premium leads, ive seen the difference on same length same standard cables, each to their own, money well spent in my opinion.

 

The sony 40w3000 is honestly the best lcd tv out atm, the lg's are ok for the money however for not alot more you can get panasonic, which is alot better.

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A 99p cable is exactly the same as a £200 cable, all they do is send 1's and 0's to the TV. Although the length of the cable can make a difference, so thats probably why you have noticed a difference.

 

Not actually true, it should be a simple serial bitstream, but it's not.

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