markbivvy Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 http://www.bbc.co.uk/spotlight/latest_stories/index.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poacher Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 what a ****, afterall there are some many more the idiot could have gone for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Just hope its not been made into sausages Private joke before anyone jumps in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted October 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Just hope its not been made into sausages Private joke before anyone jumps in :unsure: he said he had some fresh venison. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 If it was shot legally whats the problem? They call it poaching, but does anyone actually say it was shot on private land? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Just hope its not been made into sausages Private joke before anyone jumps in :unsure: he said he had some fresh venison. :blink: He did, HE did no questions asked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hart Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 I wrote a story about a white stag in shooting time about 10 years ago,then 3 months later a guy sent a picture in of one he shot in the same area,made me think that i should have not done it as there arnt many, and he was just out for the glory what a ****er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 I read the title of the thread and as I waited for it to load up I thought to myself 'I bet some ignorant so and so will shoot it' Very dissapointed to be right :unsure: LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
young airgunner Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 pretty sad really, like you say there were so many other reds he could have gone for. obviously a trophy shot.lets hope they find someone with the mounted head and find the person who shot it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 I listened to the Warrener being interviewed about the shooting on Radio 4 today. Apparently the carcus was reported to him by a farmer at a market who saw it hanging in a game dealers fridge and they now know who shot it :unsure: LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickshot Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 'Tis evn rarer now :unsure: :blink: QS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Wo hang on fellas there is a genetic flaw some where boys salective cull Well said that man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk shooter Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Whilst I see the valid argument about selective culling, surely if the person who did shot it saw it have a problem or illness, would he not have done the most humane thing possible. Why shoot a normal red deer in preference to the white one, a deer, is a deer, is a deer. They may not look the same on the outside, but they're the same on the inside, venison. I could understand people getting upset if this was being kept by somebody, but it was a wild deer, and trophy or not, it is no different to any of you stalking guys shooting any stag, buck trophy be it Red, Fallow, Sika, Roe, Muntjac or Chinese water deer. Gramnted its a shame, but not the end of the world and at twelve years old, I think its safe to assume that it would have spread its seed and therefore in years to come, they will be more genetic throwbacks springing up and then the White deer won't be so rare. SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarka Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 If there was only the one white red stag then its a bit ****. Could have let it bred, then made a bit of money selling stalking days to the forgieners! plenty of white sika stags down my way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartridge Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 terrible ,something like that should be protected because it is so rare y didnt he just shoot a red deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 It was an old beast if I remember correctly, so should certainly have produced some offspring. I have to say though, I agree with the above posters, whilst initially saddened at the end of the day it's a deer which just happened to lack some pigment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_zero Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 terrible ,something like that should be protected because it is so rare y didnt he just shoot a red deer. The fact *is* he did "just" shoot a red deer. At twelve years of age, it is freezable that the stag was going back, if so then the cull was justified. The stag being white is certainly not something that would be considered "good genetics", as such a cull would be justified. What gets me here is all the **** that some of you guys are coming out with. Mr Warrener is quick to take people trophy hunting when it suits him! What is annoying is the waste of venison (if you like hormonal venison that is). Leaving the carcass and just taking the head for a trophy is my issue but hey with profecional guides promoting trophy hunting what can be expected, hey? Would I have shot the deer if it was on my patch of Devon stalking, YES I would have if the beast had been in my cull plan, injured or going back. Frankly, this beast could have been struck by a car for all anyone REALLY knows and decapitated for a trophy by someone else. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk shooter Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 terrible ,something like that should be protected because it is so rare y didnt he just shoot a red deer. The fact *is* he did "just" shoot a red deer. At twelve years of age, it is freezable that the stag was going back, if so then the cull was justified. The stag being white is certainly not something that would be considered "good genetics", as such a cull would be justified. John John, What does this mean? (New term for me). Cheers in advance. SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_zero Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 the stag was going back John, What does this mean? (New term for me). Cheers in advance. SS Past it's prime, loss of condition, inability to hold the hinds, inability or prolonged period to recover once spent, poor regrowth of antler, high tooth wear leading to malnutrition, high stress levels due to any and all above etc. Like all grazing animals deer will eventually die from tooth decay, reports suggest that this deer was between 9 and 12 years of age. I have known of this deer for the past 6 years. Lets presume the deer was in fact 12 years of age, I would suggest that the stag was indeed "going back". John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarka Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 [ Mr Warrener is quick to take people trophy hunting when it suits him! i agree with you. wouldnt suprise me if he stuck his nose in becuase he was ****** that someone else got there before he Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayscott Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 What a *!@$*! such a shame heres hoping it managed to breed once in that 9 years! Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted October 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Mr Warrener is quick to take people trophy hunting when it suits him! i hear ed on the radio he first new of this when he visited the game dealer and saw the stag hanging there. if its true, then he is a first class hypocrite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 What a *!@$*! such a shame heres hoping it managed to breed once in that 9 years! Jay Why is it such a shame - the Animal was a genetic throw back and should of been culled long ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayscott Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 What a *!@$*! such a shame heres hoping it managed to breed once in that 9 years! Jay Why is it such a shame - the Animal was a genetic throw back and should of been culled long ago Its a beautiful beast and it seemed to mean a lot to the community, im not disagreeing with you though i see where your coming from. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v-max Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 What do the people making coments really know about deer/deerwelfare & management?.That stag will have a few calfs & some of hume will be rutting now if it was 12yrs of age.I dont know much on south lowground reds but this stag has had a good life & past it to a point but all in all a pitty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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