Rewulf Posted Tuesday at 11:16 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:16 12 hours ago, Gordon R said: You can't blame right wingers or the media This. The counter argument when (generally) the right complain about uncontrolled and illegal immigration, is for the left to warn about the rise of the far right. Its not an argument, its like saying 'Ooh look, a woman over there is being attacked, should we go over there and do something about it ?' But another person says 'Hey did you see that squirrel ?' And everyone turns to look at the squirrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted Tuesday at 11:21 Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:21 3 minutes ago, Rewulf said: This. The counter argument when (generally) the right complain about uncontrolled and illegal immigration, is for the left to warn about the rise of the far right. Its not an argument, its like saying 'Ooh look, a woman over there is being attacked, should we go over there and do something about it ?' But another person says 'Hey did you see that squirrel ?' And everyone turns to look at the squirrel. What a lot of these people don't realise is by pretending there aren't issues, by closing down free conversation and stifling free speech, they are literally fuelling and giving ammunition to the very far right they and I dislike so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted Tuesday at 11:54 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:54 30 minutes ago, Rewulf said: This. The counter argument when (generally) the right complain about uncontrolled and illegal immigration, is for the left to warn about the rise of the far right. Its not an argument, its like saying 'Ooh look, a woman over there is being attacked, should we go over there and do something about it ?' But another person says 'Hey did you see that squirrel ?' And everyone turns to look at the squirrel. Xenophobia crosses political boundaries. I have often said far right meets far left. It's the generalisations that make the headlines and headlines drive business and racism. There is no doubt that mass immigration is bad for social cohesion and democracy. Unfortunately with global warming and the current war I can only see the situation getting worse. 32 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: What a lot of these people don't realise is by pretending there aren't issues, by closing down free conversation and stifling free speech, they are literally fuelling and giving ammunition to the very far right they and I dislike so much. Or the far left which is equally disliked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted Tuesday at 12:13 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:13 13 minutes ago, oowee said: Xenophobia crosses political boundaries. I have often said far right meets far left. Cant argue with that. 13 minutes ago, oowee said: It's the generalisations that make the headlines and headlines drive business and racism. Headlines are media driven, and media, even social media, is driven by profit. We need to better understand that media companies are not for our benefit, they are not a public service, they are there to make money. Truth and unbiased information is not their goal. 13 minutes ago, oowee said: There is no doubt that mass immigration is bad for social cohesion and democracy. Well....... I never thought Id hear you say that Grant. I might have to go and have a lie down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted Tuesday at 12:23 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:23 8 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Cant argue with that. Headlines are media driven, and media, even social media, is driven by profit. We need to better understand that media companies are not for our benefit, they are not a public service, they are there to make money. Truth and unbiased information is not their goal. Well....... I never thought Id hear you say that Grant. I might have to go and have a lie down 🤣 I read it in the Guardian so it must be true. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted Tuesday at 13:00 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 13:00 Quote 🤣 I read it in the Guardian so it must be true. 🤣 Nice one, Grant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted Tuesday at 13:03 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 13:03 19 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: You get a boat, employ a load of big knuckle draggers, Illegal immigrant lands on UK coast, Said knuckle draggers, chucks illegal on boat using force if necessary, Sail to France and boot illegal off, whether France likes it or not. Simples 👌 No need to get that creative, just stop the money and let the Herefords and mates scare the traffickers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted Tuesday at 13:58 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 13:58 1 hour ago, Rewulf said: Well....... I never thought Id hear you say that Grant. I might have to go and have a lie down Definately a swoon moment!! 😁 1 hour ago, oowee said: 🤣 I read it in the Guardian so it must be true. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted Tuesday at 14:04 Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 14:04 2 hours ago, oowee said: Xenophobia crosses political boundaries. I have often said far right meets far left. It's the generalisations that make the headlines and headlines drive business and racism. There is no doubt that mass immigration is bad for social cohesion and democracy. Unfortunately with global warming and the current war I can only see the situation getting worse. Or the far left which is equally disliked. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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