Serge D3 Posted March 19, 2024 Report Share Posted March 19, 2024 Hello, Can anybody tell me iff this Browning B25 is original. Haven't seen any like this, and can't find any information about a gun with the woodcarving like this. The guy who sells it, says that it is a 1975 Browning B25 D5 Choles Full/Full. I like the gun, but I don't know a lot about old B25's. Thnks for your answers. Serge D3 Belgium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 19, 2024 Report Share Posted March 19, 2024 @Miroku Matt might know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fargo Posted March 19, 2024 Report Share Posted March 19, 2024 Looks like a D4 type thing to me. Could be a reworked A1 custom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miroku Matt Posted March 21, 2024 Report Share Posted March 21, 2024 Looks like a D5G to me and there are a number of things that point to it being genuine. However so am dubious as to whether the woodwork is original as it looks a lower grade than a D and the pad and so have never seen a black recoil pad on a 70’s B25 trap gun. Do you know the engravers name? Should be on the gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHenry Posted March 21, 2024 Report Share Posted March 21, 2024 1 hour ago, Miroku Matt said: Looks like a D5G to me and there are a number of things that point to it being genuine. However so am dubious as to whether the woodwork is original as it looks a lower grade than a D and the pad and so have never seen a black recoil pad on a 70’s B25 trap gun. Do you know the engravers name? Should be on the gun Wild stab in the dark - but could that not be French walnut? I know this is a Belgian gun, but I saw something once about the Presidential grade Mirokus being stocked with French Walnut, and that the figure seems underwhelming to some by today's standards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted March 22, 2024 Report Share Posted March 22, 2024 Very hard to tell .I have vague memories of seeing a stock with similar carving some years ago on a B25 Note sure about the gold initials So is it an up grade or was it an original custom gun .Browning's did make some guns that did not fall into any exact grade norms so I would guess this was made i As you are in Belgium I would suggest you contact Paul Pletsus ( not sure of spelling ) or Jan Bliki or if near Maastricht then Rolofe Lucas any of these would be to Tell you exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge D3 Posted March 28, 2024 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2024 On 21/03/2024 at 22:17, Miroku Matt said: Looks like a D5G to me and there are a number of things that point to it being genuine. However so am dubious as to whether the woodwork is original as it looks a lower grade than a D and the pad and so have never seen a black recoil pad on a 70’s B25 trap gun. Do you know the engravers name? Should be on the gun Hello Matt, there is no engravers name on it. Only the initials AD on the triggerguard. I have found two more B25 with the same woodcarving on a website in Holland, but no respons yet. It’s also a trap gun, full/full. 🤷🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge D3 Posted March 28, 2024 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2024 27 minutes ago, Serge D3 said: Hello Matt, there is no engravers name on it. Only the initials AD on the triggerguard. I have found two more B25 with the same woodcarving on a website in Holland, but no respons yet. It’s also a trap gun, full/full. 🤷🏻 Here is the link to the website who have them. There are 3 B25's with the same wood carving as mine. 2 superposed cal12 and 1 B25 KAl. 20/57JRS Never seen any other one with this wood carving. It is still a mistery to me. All info would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge D3 Posted March 28, 2024 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2024 6 minutes ago, Serge D3 said: Here is the link to the website who have them. There are 3 B25's with the same wood carving as mine. 2 superposed cal12 and 1 B25 KAl. 20/57JRS Never seen any other one with this wood carving. It is still a mistery to me. All info would help. https://doubletshop.nl/nl/90-wapens?q=Merk-Battle+Arms On 22/03/2024 at 09:37, Gunman said: Very hard to tell .I have vague memories of seeing a stock with similar carving some years ago on a B25 Note sure about the gold initials So is it an up grade or was it an original custom gun .Browning's did make some guns that did not fall into any exact grade norms so I would guess this was made i As you are in Belgium I would suggest you contact Paul Pletsus ( not sure of spelling ) or Jan Bliki or if near Maastricht then Rolofe Lucas any of these would be to Tell you exactly Hello Gunman, thank you for the reply. I have send pictures to several sellers, and they all say the same. Verry nice engraving, only no name of the engraver. Wood probably not original, but not sure. It's in a luxe leather case from Browning, but maybe there were all in that period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge D3 Posted March 28, 2024 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2024 7 minutes ago, Serge D3 said: https://doubletshop.nl/nl/90-wapens?q=Merk-Battle+Arms Hello Gunman, thank you for the reply. I have send pictures to several sellers, and they all say the same. Verry nice engraving, only no name of the engraver. Wood probably not original, but not sure. It's in a luxe leather case from Browning, but maybe there were all in that period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 (edited) Send the serial number to Browning and they’ll tell you the initial grade of the gun manufactured. I suspect this is a later ‘customisation’. Back in the day my father had a similar type of gun shipped to Elderkin’s, and the research showed it was originally made as a lower grade gun, and subsequently ‘upgraded’. Edited March 29, 2024 by Smokersmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge D3 Posted March 29, 2024 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 59 minutes ago, Smokersmith said: Send the serial number to Browning and they’ll tell you the initial grade of the gun manufactured. I suspect this is a later ‘customisation’. Back in the day my father had a similar type of gun shipped to Elderkin’s, and the research showed it was originally made as a lower grade gun, and subsequently ‘upgraded’. Thanks for the info. I’ll do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper682 Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 There's a similar gun and discussion on shootclay at the moment. Wisemans of cannock apparently did/do this sort of work to low grade Brownings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 30, 2024 Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 Surely these must have been aimed at the American market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge D3 Posted March 30, 2024 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 12 hours ago, jasper682 said: There's a similar gun and discussion on shootclay at the moment. Wisemans of cannock apparently did/do this sort of work to low grade Brownings. Thanks, will send the question to Wisemans of cannock. Maybe the can sort it out. Will also follow that forum. Bit by bit I will get there 😏. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted March 30, 2024 Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 This one’s only 20 years old… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo Posted March 30, 2024 Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 43 minutes ago, Smokersmith said: This one’s only 20 years old… Beauty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 30, 2024 Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 1 hour ago, Fargo said: Beauty Is in the eye of the beholder................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo Posted March 30, 2024 Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 10 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Is in the eye of the beholder................................. No it’s nice . Much nicer than modern stuff imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCB56 Posted March 30, 2024 Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Is in the eye of the beholder................................. Or if your buying, in the eye of the money holder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 30, 2024 Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 7 hours ago, Fargo said: No it’s nice . Much nicer than modern stuff imo Made for the American market......................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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