myuserid Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Just picked up a Franchi Harrier Field O/U today, got it home assembled it, fine opening it but when I come to close it its very hard. Noticed a few scratches on the block as well. Says nothing about oiling, but has a gun oil spray in the case. Should I give it a spray and see if that helps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 a New gun should be 'stiff' when closing but not hard work - sounds like something aint right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippy18 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Just picked up a Franchi Harrier Field O/U today, got it home assembled it, fine opening it but when I come to close it its very hard. Noticed a few scratches on the block as well.Says nothing about oiling, but has a gun oil spray in the case. Should I give it a spray and see if that helps? Never had anything like that with mine, even when it was new. Maybe get it checked. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 sounds like a few galled up pcs of debris coming between the action and block, take it apart carefuly and take it back, better still before you do anything else call the shop and get their advice as to disassemble and return, either way you have something wrong, you mention scratches, its easy to get small particles of steel off a new gun stuck in-between, a good clean prior to assemble would have sorted it. good luck Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myuserid Posted November 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 It was in their gun rack when I purchased it, so its been assembled/tested etc. I have taken it apart cleaned it/oiled seems a bit better. Bought from Philip Morris & Son, Hereford, which is a 400 mile round trip so dont really want to send it back if I can help it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 You should clean the gun thoroughly, use say WD40, remove all of the protective grease coating that the manufacturer has applied, then lightly oil. Dont forget that grease has a body to it, which will fill any clearance that is intended to enable you to be able to move the parts. As previously stated, a new gun should be tight, but not so stiff that you can not open and close the action without the use of undue force. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myuserid Posted November 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Thanks for the replies. I think I'm getting there, when I remove the fore-end its fine, when I attach the fore-end its a bit stiff. I have oiled the hinges which seems to have made it slightly easier to open. I will give it a good clean and oil tomorrow, there is a fair amount of grease from manufacture which does seem a bit excessive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 get rid of all the oil and grease and use a dry lube, you will find a world of difference trust me, i hate grease and oil they become magnets for dust grit grime and any other bit of debris that can foul an action, any moly coat s02 base will work fine even a graphite lube, this will put a protective coating between the steel surfaces preventing wear and errosion. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myuserid Posted November 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Still having problems, have given it a good clean but still really quite stiff. I have taken a pic of the scratches hopefully you can see what I mean. As you can see its a nice gun, so dont really want to replace it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 as i said first time , you have a debris problem, more than likely a pc of steel from manufacture, it has embbeded itself inside the wall of the action, you now have your own built in grinder, every time you break the barrels it will scratch more, even move and magnify the problem, you need to get an oil stone, fine grit, and gently remove the raised metal burr in the side wall, smooth the edges as best you can, polish with some very fine emery or the like. once this is done you can look to repair the visual damage, get a hand drill, a wooden dowel and some lapping paste or rouge, apply paste to the wooden dowel and gently apply to the block where the jeweling is damaged, adjust pressure to suit results of repair, you are not removing huge amounts of material, you are polishing in the finish. next time you will be very aware of the possible and actual damage a small pc of material in the wrong place can do, anytime you've been with your guns make sure your aware of the enviroment you shoot in and how to take steps to minimise damage, even a clean rag for a quick feild strip in the wind will save this, we all fall to complacency when out in the field or even on the range, a little wind in dusty conditions, rain and muddy clim's. any problems with the mention process give me a shout, good luck buddy Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Take a tip from my book-when buying a new gun even if it is on the shelf and you want a new one tell your RFD you want a new one ordered and see it straight out of the box. I learnt my lesson with a new Browning 425- ordered brand new and went to pick it up only to find it was in the hands of someone else cos it had been put on the shelf for sale. Between me asking the bloke for it and getting into my ownership this guy dropped it in the shop and the result was a 4" scratch down the barrel. I had paid for it RFD did'nt want to know even though it had not left the shop. When I buy new I want new-straight from the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Take a tip from my book-when buying a new gun even if it is on the shelf and you want a new one tell your RFD you want a new one ordered and see it straight out of the box. I learnt my lesson with a new Browning 425- ordered brand new and went to pick it up only to find it was in the hands of someone else cos it had been put on the shelf for sale. Between me asking the bloke for it and getting into my ownership this guy dropped it in the shop and the result was a 4" scratch down the barrel. I had paid for it RFD did'nt want to know even though it had not left the shop. When I buy new I want new-straight from the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myuserid Posted November 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 as i said first time , you have a debris problem, more than likely a pc of steel from manufacture, it has embbeded itself inside the wall of the action, you now have your own built in grinder, every time you break the barrels it will scratch more, even move and magnify the problem, you need to get an oil stone, fine grit, and gently remove the raised metal burr in the side wall, smooth the edges as best you can, polish with some very fine emery or the like. once this is done you can look to repair the visual damage, get a hand drill, a wooden dowel and some lapping paste or rouge, apply paste to the wooden dowel and gently apply to the block where the jeweling is damaged, adjust pressure to suit results of repair, you are not removing huge amounts of material, you are polishing in the finish. next time you will be very aware of the possible and actual damage a small pc of material in the wrong place can do, anytime you've been with your guns make sure your aware of the enviroment you shoot in and how to take steps to minimise damage, even a clean rag for a quick feild strip in the wind will save this, we all fall to complacency when out in the field or even on the range, a little wind in dusty conditions, rain and muddy clim's. any problems with the mention process give me a shout, good luck buddy Martin I don't see why I should do that, thats their problem. Looks like a long trip back down at some point very frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 i understand what your saying, i only gave advice for a repair to the gun as is, you said earlier about sending the gun back was to far to go. as i said me i would send it back, and i hope they honour the warrenty, otherwise your in for a repair job. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myuserid Posted November 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Thanks for the advice, they better had honour the warranty, only picked it up yesterday, hasn't been fired, still has the labels on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 have you e/mailed them these pictures, just a thought whilst the labels are still on and the timeline can be verified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myuserid Posted November 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Good idea, thanks for that. I have also emailed GMK for a second opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 What was the outcome of this issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 He hasn`t been here since ...... 17th January 2008 - 12:09 PM, sooooo don`t expect a quick reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Damn, I need closure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 NEVER NEVER lubricate with WD-40. It does what it ways on the can - Water Dispellent formula 40. It is made to chase water off ( ie for wiping the barrels before storage) and its OK as a penetrating oil - but its much too light to use on the action and working parts. Simply burns off during use leaving the parts dry and grinding together. ALWAYS use high viscosity gun oils, and high melting point greases. These are made to do the job, and they last in the gun keeping everything lubricated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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