Rewulf Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 26 minutes ago, Mungler said: I still make the case for teaching economics alongside maths and English. The school system does little to prepare the young for the real world and the lack of understanding about government, money and tax is overwhelming - probably how the powers that be like it. Instead they believe its important to recognise the importance of picking their preferred gender, from a shopping list, along with sexual orientation and racial identity. Im surprised there isnt an actual wokism class yet. In the 'real' world, ideals like LGBTQ+ for Palestine simply doesnt work, but they are taught that all 'minorities' have to fight along side each other to achieve victory. Universities are pumping out degree laden kids that have no concept of how things really work, yet believe they can change the world one protest at a time. 8 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: Industries like the care sector where they don’t have enough staff were given special exemptions to hire non EU / EU staff after Brexit to continue to import of cheap foreign labour and they were legally allowed to pay them less. They don’t address the root problem that the job is undervalued and underpaid considering the work, shifts, abuse, etc… and someone can get better pay stacking shelves in a supermarket without all the bother… they just change the rules to keep the merry go round moving. And thats why there is such fervour still for the EU, its not just a UK problem, its a Europe problem. Except in countries that have traditionally low wages anyway, you dont get many 3rd world migrants choosing the Eastern European countries. Go across the pond, and there seems to be a similar problem there, there are many who profit greatly from uncontrolled illegal migration, they gravitate towards the left, as they keep them coming, and that endless pool of cheap labour can be exploited, the negative aspects are never felt by them, because the tax system looks after it. The tide is changing none the less, as quality of life among the indigenous goes down, and a political system that promises change is offered. The leftist wriggle and bitch about the rise of the far right, but its just cause and effect, history should teach them the probable outcome, but their arrogance wont let them see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 1 hour ago, Rewulf said: The leftist wriggle and bitch about the rise of the far right, but its just cause and effect, history should teach them the probable outcome, but their arrogance wont let them see it. The word racist has lost all meaning as too ‘far right’. Both are rolled out at a drop of a hat and so meaning and impact washes away. Secure borders, love of country, law and order, controlled selective immigration, saying no to grooming gangs, not pandering to minorities or minority views that some women may have a penis etc. all ‘far right views’ apparently. The pendulum is swinging back, how far though remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 51 minutes ago, Mungler said: The word racist has lost all meaning as too ‘far right’. Both are rolled out at a drop of a hat and so meaning and impact washes away. Secure borders, love of country, law and order, controlled selective immigration, saying no to grooming gangs, not pandering to minorities or minority views that some women may have a penis etc. all ‘far right views’ apparently. The pendulum is swinging back, how far though remains to be seen. Liberalism and liberty is based upon the rights and freedoms of individuals. These rights and liberties need to be removed and controlled to achieve right wing objectives. The law is there to control grooming gangs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 6 minutes ago, oowee said: Liberalism and liberty is based upon the rights and freedoms of individuals. These rights and liberties need to be removed and controlled to achieve EU and Labour Party objectives. The law is there to control grooming gangs. Fixed it for you. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 8 minutes ago, oowee said: Liberalism and liberty is based upon the rights and freedoms of individuals. Within the law. When the law is biased because of some perceived minority status, and favours said minority, then the these ideals become meaningless, liberty and freedom should be applied equally, no matter your race, nationality or orientation. Yet we have seen it time and again , BLM , Palestine protests, they can say and do what they like. But fly a St George flag outside your house, and youre a racist with a cop banging on your door to issue you with a non crime hate order, or worse. Liberalism doesnt mean the same thing anymore. 8 minutes ago, oowee said: These rights and liberties need to be removed and controlled to achieve right wing objectives. Yet the left are the ones seeming to be the ones removing those freedoms. This is a classic trope of the left, get into power by promising more freedom to the lower classes - lower classes vote them in , and then the left start removing the freedoms bit by bit. What exactly are 'right wing objectives' ? If you can define this, you should also be able to define left wing objectives, because at this moment in time, all I can see is the left trying to destroy anything remotely British, like its some kind of embarrassing condition. 8 minutes ago, oowee said: The law is there to control grooming gangs. Yet they didnt, and ignored the protests of the girls who reported them, fearing the backlash of those who might judge them to be racist. They literally ignored crimes to protect their careers, until eventually , after many years , were forced to investigate. It was common knowledge in the towns involved that it was a serious issue, yet when anyone protested, they were labelled far right racists. This mentality has not gone away, and its highly likely ethnic grooming gangs still operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 1 hour ago, Mungler said: The word racist has lost all meaning as too ‘far right’. Both are rolled out at a drop of a hat and so meaning and impact washes away. Secure borders, love of country, law and order, controlled selective immigration, saying no to grooming gangs, not pandering to minorities or minority views that some women may have a penis etc. all ‘far right views’ apparently. The pendulum is swinging back, how far though remains to be seen. I can feel a Dominic Frisby song coming on. 41 minutes ago, oowee said: The law is there to control grooming gangs. Yes, but the will to use them isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 Time to end this one, it seems to have deviated away from the OP, I am sure it's not the last Trump post we will have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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