Oh dear, american pheasant shooting video

[tom_0787]

And to think its illegal to shoot pheasants here with a semi.

 

 

These guys are shooting them the way we shoot pigeons.

[jayward]

is it really illegal to shoot pheasants here with a semi ??

tbh i was under the impression its just down to the safety aspect of it and tradition i did not realise it was against the law .. ref the vid what can ya say thats yanks for ya !!!

[Cranfield]

Apart from the autos and the cammo gear, I didn't notice much difference from a driven day in England.

In fact, being able to stand with another gun and chat during the quiet parts of a drive, seems fine by me.

 

Its not illegal to shoot pheasants with a semi automatic shotgun.

[Lord Geordie]

Two parts there had me cringing

 

First was the guy with the gun slung over his shoulder without a care for who was behind and then the little girl walks into the picture right in the line of the barrel

 

Second was the guy who loads the shell into the shotgun then waves it round when the dog is right in front of the barrel

 

Or am I the only one who thought that was a bit slack??

 

LG

[Guest rabgoat]

Two parts there had me cringing

 

First was the guy with the gun slung over his shoulder without a care for who was behind and then the little girl walks into the picture right in the line of the barrel

 

Second was the guy who loads the shell into the shotgun then waves it round when the dog is right in front of the barrel

 

Or am I the only one who thought that was a bit slack??

 

LG

your guite wright LG i didn,t watch it all and don,t care which type of SG they use to shoot pheasents,the part when the guy had the SG over his shoulder and the little girl behind him had me cringing

[al4x]

Apart from the autos and the cammo gear, I didn't notice much difference from a driven day in England.

In fact, being able to stand with another gun and chat during the quiet parts of a drive, seems fine by me.

 

Its not illegal to shoot pheasants with a semi automatic shotgun.

 

 

only if its a section 1 semi

[Guest The Outlaw]

I too have a problem with the safety or disregard of it in the video.

 

I watched 7 mins and that was enough.

 

No wonder they have a problem with friendly fire over there.

 

How many shots to bring the birds down, I counted at least 8 on 1 bird.

 

I will stick to the shoots and shooters I know and trust.

 

Tony

[Suffolk shooter]

I watched this video a few weeks ago, and couldn't believe what I saw, but then again the yanks don't have the tradtion behind them that we do. Still no excuse for the gun over the shoulder though

 

I believe there is an even worse video just below that one, Nurnberg (Germany??), bloke sends dog to flush pheasant, pheasant strolls into ride, bloke walks up to it to get it to fly and just as it clears the longish grass, bang, Duvet time

 

SS

[peter-peter]

Two parts there had me cringing

 

First was the guy with the gun slung over his shoulder without a care for who was behind and then the little girl walks into the picture right in the line of the barrel

 

Second was the guy who loads the shell into the shotgun then waves it round when the dog is right in front of the barrel

 

Or am I the only one who thought that was a bit slack??

 

LG

your guite wright LG i didn,t watch it all and don,t care which type of SG they use to shoot pheasents,the part when the guy had the SG over his shoulder and the little girl behind him had me cringing

yup sa over shoulder breech closed the guys an idiot.

and what about the red baseball caps do they attract birds.

but then its america, frendly fire an all that.

i watched a video of the yanks in vietnam out on night patrol. shouting to one another with lit fags now thats real jungle warfare

[Guest The Outlaw]

yup sa over shoulder breech closed the guys an idiot.

and what about the red baseball caps do they attract birds.

but then its america, frendly fire an all that.

i watched a video of the yanks in vietnam out on night patrol. shouting to one another with lit fags now thats real jungle warfare

 

Apparently birds are color blind, I dont know the optician but he is cheep.

 

Clam reckons all animals are color blind but I'm not sure on that one.

 

Tony

[dustyfox]

They must be newbies over there with the amount of shots that where taken

[dustyfox]

Apparently birds are color blind, I dont know the optician but he is cheep.

 

Clam reckons all animals are color blind but I'm not sure on that one.

 

Tony

Birds are not colourblind, most mammals are

[lurcherboy]

I disagree with you dissenters.

 

They paid for a days sport and got it

 

Each unto their own chaps 'eh?

 

 

 

 

LB

[Guest The Outlaw]

Apparently birds are color blind, I dont know the optician but he is cheep.

 

Clam reckons all animals are color blind but I'm not sure on that one.

 

Tony

Birds are not colourblind, most mammals are

 

Yipee another one clam got wrong

 

Tony

[Wookie]

Yeah, and dogs can't look up...

 

I think it's a legal requirement that "hunters" in the US have to wear hi-viz to prevent friendly fire when out. I'm not sure on that though and it could be just for deer. perhaps our US contingent could clarify that.

 

The safety thing was a bit worrying to me too... That's why I like SBS or O/U shotguns. You can _see_ it can't fire, with an auto, you have to assume it's loaded and ready to fire. In some ways, that's why I prefer my Laurona to the Beretta.

[Cranfield]

They must be newbies over there with the amount of shots that where taken

 

If you watch all of the video, I think you will realise that a lot of the shots you hear were not at one bird, but guns shooting at birds further down the line, or more than one bird over the guns being filmed.

 

As LB said, each unto their own.

[Dunkield]

Apart from some safety issues, I didn't see a lot wrong with it.

It is difficult to get the balance right, how many people get nervous about being on a formal shoot, or turn their noses up at people who really dress up to go on a formal day? Well this is just the other end of the scale.

 

Americans do things differently to us, just like our continental cousins do - we have to open our eyes and accept that.

 

I don't see anything wrong with the orange if it is going to save your life or stop you from getting peppered.

[NorfolkBoy]

Wookie - mandatory wearing Blaze orange depends on the State and the type of hunting. Most seem to require some blaze orange when bird hunting. Wearing hi-viz does look odd to us more used to tweed/camo but you have to remember that a lot of hunting in North America take splace on public land. Unlike a UK shoot on private land with people shooting from pegs and a disciplined beatig line, or a small group of rough shooters over here you may not know the location of everyone in the immediate vicinity - blaze orange eliminates some of the risk.

 

I'm off on my first upland bird hunt tomorrow so will try to take some pictures.

 

And for those concerned I will be using a break open gun....

[al4x]

good luck from some of the reports I've heard of hunting on public land some form of kevlar vest and tin helmet might be advisable

[NorfolkBoy]

good luck from some of the reports I've heard of hunting on public land some form of kevlar vest and tin helmet might be advisable

 

 

We're actually hunting at a private club but if **** Cheney does shows up I'll let you know.

[peter-peter]

I disagree with you dissenters.

 

They paid for a days sport and got it

 

Each unto their own chaps 'eh?

 

 

 

 

LB

woudn't want you on my shoot lurch no matter how much you paid safety comes without a price

[Suffolk shooter]

We're actually hunting at a private club but if **** Cheney does shows up I'll let you know.

 

 

SS

[nav54]

Nice to see some good gun safety put into to place (NOT), the dogs were well under control i think not only in america!!!!!!

[starlight32]

Each to their own- There is'nt a shooter on this forum who would'nt want the shooting avaiable that they do in the states.

 

I might start having a semi-auto day on my shoot-Anyone who turns up with anything else can stay in the shoot cart.

 

When is the semi-auto debate ever going to end.......

[Suffolk shooter]

When is the semi-auto debate ever going to end.......

 

I think the "problem" lies with the english tradition of Game shooting as well as the safety aspect, and not knowing for sure if the SA is indeed loaded or unloaded and if loaded how many?

 

I know of two shooters who both use only Semi automatics. One is an old boy who enjoys his shooting, but because of his age (80 odd) has taken to shooting a 20 gauge SA due to weight and recoil for all clays, vermin, wildfowl and game. The other is a middle aged man who scrimped and saved to buy the gun he wanted a 12 gauge SA and has no problems with holding a gun or recoil, he shoots well with it and is safe and uses it on the game shoot that he belongs to and has shot as a guest of people who he always tells that he shoots a semi auto and has never had a problem.

 

In fact I seem to recall on FB111's shoot the other week there was at least one possibly two guns that had Semi's that day.

 

If the shoot you are on hasn't got a problem with them then there is no problem, but you should never take it for granted that just because you are 'safe' and that is what you normally/always shoot with, that that is going to be allowed on other shoots.

 

Safety with guns is like the construction industry, all the training, procedures, CDM, paperwork, HSE advice, still doesn't stop accidents happening due to that thing between each persons ears, called a brain, sometimes having a momentary lapse of concentration.

 

SS