Wylye Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 Does anyone have any experience with the iD4? It looks like it should fit the bill but I don't know anyone who has one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 VW shutting 3 factories, cutting pay and sacking thousands because they have gone down the EV route. If they were any good they would sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wylye Posted October 28 Author Report Share Posted October 28 I'm not sure i follow your logic but thanks for the reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 10 minutes ago, Wylye said: I'm not sure i follow your logic but thanks for the reply They are making cars that they can't sell namely EV's, if they were any good they would be selling just like their ICE cars did very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 13 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: They are making cars that they can't sell namely EV's, if they were any good they would be selling just like their ICE cars did very well. Not buying is one thing but that does not mean they are not good vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 (edited) 12 minutes ago, oowee said: Not buying is one thing but that does not mean they are not good vehicles. If they were they would sell although it might be the 3 year 2/3 depreciation putting people off. Will no doubt be reviews on You Tube. Edited October 28 by Weihrauch17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 12 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: If they were they would sell although it might be the 3 year 2/3 depreciation putting people off. Will no doubt be reviews on You Tube. Also I think the switch to new tech has been difficult for old companies with slow and intractable work force (German). Competition from new manufacturers less constrained is fierce (Korea). Dumping on the market by the Chinese. Govt changing the cut off point for ICE vehicles (Sunak). Incoherent policy on charging infrastructure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wylye Posted October 28 Author Report Share Posted October 28 Car reviews are ok but they are a bit like gun reviews - you never see a bad one. Which is why I was looking for first hand experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 A friend shoots with a chap who runs a Kia dealership. Friend asked him how sales of EVs were going. Reply was: Companies are buying them and there are the Motability sales, but private sales….virtually zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 12 hours ago, London Best said: but private sales….virtually zero. I live in a 'rich' area (and no - I don't fit to type!) - but most families are older and have 2/3/4 cars. There are now very many small electrics/hybrids about - the 'hers' cars being (ones I know the owner of at least vaguely) from MG, Tesla, VW, BMW, Mini, Mercedes, Jaguar, Toyota. The oniy person who has had trouble has a Jaguar - and that has been off the road a lot - for months at a time. No known complaints from the owners of the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wylye Posted October 29 Author Report Share Posted October 29 Thats the kind of picture local to here. Electric is a no-brainer for a second car doing 4-5000 miles a year carting grandkids about and doing whatever the other half does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Wylye said: Thats the kind of picture local to here. Electric is a no-brainer for a second car doing 4-5000 miles a year carting grandkids about and doing whatever the other half does. Yes, they have a 'big' main car (Range/Land Rover, BMW, Mercedes, Audi and similar) which covers holidays and long journeys, towing the horsebox etc, and a small 'runabout' for the shops, school runs etc. We have no public transport at all and no pavements along narrow (and nowadays very busy) B roads make a walk to the shops (a mile +) unsuitable and unsafe - hence during the day we are crawling with small 'electrics' wirring about! I would expect most to be privately leased. Edited October 29 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wylye Posted October 29 Author Report Share Posted October 29 Well if you can fill the tank for a tenner and do 250 miles it seems the logical way to go. No road tax, easy to drive, just a box on the wall to pay for. I'll keep the Disco for shooting etc so I think I'm almost there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 50 minutes ago, Wylye said: Well if you can fill the tank for a tenner and do 250 miles it seems the logical way to go. No road tax, easy to drive, just a box on the wall to pay for. I'll keep the Disco for shooting etc so I think I'm almost there. It depends on your individual conditions. I spend around £700 a year on fuel for my diesel 4 x 4. I 'need' that for around 1/3 of my annual mileage and would not be without it (I've owned a 4 x 4 for the last 40 years). On that basis, adding a second vehicle (however cheap to run) would not be worthwhile. But I can see how it works for other people with different usages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 1 hour ago, Wylye said: Well if you can fill the tank for a tenner and do 250 miles it seems the logical way to go. No road tax, easy to drive, just a box on the wall to pay for. I'll keep the Disco for shooting etc so I think I'm almost there. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vehicle-tax-for-electric-and-low-emissions-vehicles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wylye Posted October 29 Author Report Share Posted October 29 Ah well - it was a pleasant thought while it lasted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 4 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vehicle-tax-for-electric-and-low-emissions-vehicles I think i must have missed this. That looks like a whole chunk of new tax income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 9 minutes ago, oowee said: I think i must have missed this. That looks like a whole chunk of new tax income. Came out in the last budget back in the spring (6th March 2024). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted October 30 Report Share Posted October 30 I found the insurance on these ‘little run around electrics’ absolutely huge compared to a similar ICE. it’s on another thread somewhere but the difference for me a year on a little electric VS a Ferrari was £200! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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