sishyplops Posted November 24 Report Share Posted November 24 Hi all as title can anyone confirm that the beretta Gold E is high performance steel proof and for dy lys stamped ? I know std steel is ok but want to know about. HP many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie1965 Posted November 24 Report Share Posted November 24 Mine is a 2003 model I think. No it’s not HP steel proof. No fleur de lys stamp. l’m sure it would pass HP reproof if I sent to the proof house but can see little point in doing so. I did put some standard steel Lyvale’s through it last season and some Gamebore Silver Steels. Brought down some cracking pheasants. There was no noticeable difference to my usual lead cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 24 Report Share Posted November 24 I have no idea if they have been proofed for HP steel, but I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt it’s more than capable of using HP steel. I know folk are probably tired of me banging on about this, but it’s just a stamp! I know someone who bought a Browning Crown, brand new but no HP stamp and a big yellow sticker on the barrels stating ‘Lead Only’! Anyhow, against my advice but for his own peace of mind ( fair enough ) he sent it to Teague who made it a multi choke and submitted it for re-proofing ( they insist on this money spinning lark even if you just want a lump cutting off the end! ) and lo and behold it sailed through! It may have added re-sale value to the gun, but at the cost of having it done I doubt it, but admittedly will have added to its desirability. I know a RFD who shall remain nameless who will offer **** poor trade in deals for your nitro proofed guns, who found himself stuck with a very nice old sporting shotgun from the 80’s. It was in the racks for ages, so they submitted it for HP proofing, shoved the cost of that on top and it sold! 🤷♂️ All the steel shot issue has done is devalue some very nice, more than capable guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow243 Posted November 24 Report Share Posted November 24 you should never tell anyone to use hp steel thru a non hp steel proofed gun as they may get injured or worse killed then how would you feel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 24 Report Share Posted November 24 15 minutes ago, Scully said: All the steel shot issue has done is devalue some very nice, more than capable guns. That sums the whole sorry episode up perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 24 Report Share Posted November 24 17 minutes ago, scarecrow243 said: you should never tell anyone to use hp steel thru a non hp steel proofed gun as they may get injured or worse killed then how would you feel I take your point on board, but I didn’t tell anyone to use HP steel, I just told them that particular gun would be more than capable to use it, which it will. Secondly, unless you know of someone who has been, just how are they going to be ‘injured or worse killed’? Any steel cartridge (( HP or standard ) will ruin a barrel, even a HP proofed one, if that wad fails. I know it sounds flippant, but If anyone wants to test their gun at any time ( and I deem it capable ) and is willing to pay my travel expenses, I’ll put a few HP cartridges through it for them.🙂 The biggest I’ve gone is HP steel 4’s through a nitro proofed 3/4 fixed choke Browning. Bit punchy but otherwise ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 24 Report Share Posted November 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, scarecrow243 said: Edited November 24 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo Posted November 24 Report Share Posted November 24 (edited) I’d use 3” steel through one no problem. Friend uses 2 3/4 super steels through his 3/4 full Mk38 no problem Lot of hypochondriacs in the shooting world Edited November 24 by Fargo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 24 Report Share Posted November 24 Scully - you have said it many times and I do wonder why anyone would argue. It's the Emperor's new clothes syndrome. The HP steel proof is just a heavier charge of powder and lead, not steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted November 24 Report Share Posted November 24 4 hours ago, Scully said: I have no idea if they have been proofed for HP steel, but I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt it’s more than capable of using HP steel. I know folk are probably tired of me banging on about this, but it’s just a stamp! It may have added re-sale value to the gun, but at the cost of having it done I doubt it, but admittedly will have added to its desirability. All the steel shot issue has done is devalue some very nice, more than capable guns. This is pretty much bullseye, after bullseye after bullseye on all four points. 100% spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fil Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 On 24/11/2024 at 09:20, sishyplops said: Hi all as title can anyone confirm that the beretta Gold E is high performance steel proof and for dy lys stamped ? I know std steel is ok but want to know about. HP many thanks No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sishyplops Posted November 25 Author Report Share Posted November 25 Thank you for everyone’s input , I have a 682 gold and was hoping to kill two birds by fitting gold e barrels thus reducing weight and have an hp proof gun in the bargain , I’ve only got older guns anyway think the 682 is 1996 and 4 beretta 303’s from late 80’s so I’m not overly fussed about the steel element but just thought I’d ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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