marsh man Posted Saturday at 18:19 Report Share Posted Saturday at 18:19 5 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Good old MM. Yes it would give him a chance to do some shooting and for me to sit back in the sunshine and watch someone else to do the hard work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted Saturday at 18:23 Report Share Posted Saturday at 18:23 10 minutes ago, marsh man said: I'll tell yer what JKD , as I am a decent human being ( some of you might have doubts😋 ) that if the op is in striking distance from mine ,then if he got in touch with me in the Summer months I would do my best for him, to beat his two best bags of 2024 in the same afternoon , I can't be fairer than that as the invite is for all to see And good for you 👍 🫡😀 Here's a short story...... Years ago, I frequented a now extinct forum for airgun shooters. One day, I drove up to the Nottingham show ground for the shooting show, and had arranged to meet up with a fellow shooter on the aforementioned forum [as he was having problems with his shooting of rabbits] , not at the shooting show, but on my way 'home' and on the outskirts of Birmingham at one of his permissions. We spent 2 hours together, walking around 'chasing' rabbits, with him missing several easy shots ! 😳 I had a go, and shot at a tin can. Missed. 3 shots,,, 4,, 5,,, all missed 🤔🤔🤔 adjusted the scope,,,, missed 🤔 Looked along the air rifle,,,, the barrel was bent !!! End of session,,,, thanks,,,, get the gun fixed 🙏,,, hand shakes,,,, then the long drive back home to Dartford 😆 So, there's lots of us helpful people around 😇😆😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted Saturday at 18:24 Report Share Posted Saturday at 18:24 4 minutes ago, marsh man said: Yes it would give him a chance to do some shooting and for me to sit back in the sunshine and watch someone else to do the hard work I hope he takes you up on your kind offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted Saturday at 18:39 Report Share Posted Saturday at 18:39 4 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I hope he takes you up on your kind offer. All he need to do is to live reasonably close and come on any day with a dry forecast on any day of that particular week he choice to come , last year our harvest started around the 12th of July , if the farm had one week of cutting weather there would be several fields cut and we would have a choice where to go , so if I had to say what would be the best two weeks I would say around the last week of July and the first week of August , by then a lot of Winter barley would be cut , Peas if they were vining , first of the winter wheats and some fields would still have the bales on so we can get into the middle of the stubble fields to make life easy . MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilts#Dave Posted Saturday at 19:12 Report Share Posted Saturday at 19:12 24 minutes ago, marsh man said: All he need to do is to live reasonably close and come on any day with a dry forecast on any day of that particular week he choice to come , last year our harvest started around the 12th of July , if the farm had one week of cutting weather there would be several fields cut and we would have a choice where to go , so if I had to say what would be the best two weeks I would say around the last week of July and the first week of August , by then a lot of Winter barley would be cut , Peas if they were vining , first of the winter wheats and some fields would still have the bales on so we can get into the middle of the stubble fields to make life easy . MM He hasn’t yet replied, but I’d wager on him having very little ground to shoot over along with lack of experience (possibly due to lack of pigeons to go at). I’ve had plenty of poor days that don’t turn out as expected, but as with most experienced pigeon shooters I’ve generally already watched where I will be shooting prior to the event so have a fair idea of the opportunity I may be in for. Most of my poor days are due to other factors, fields being turned over unexpectedly/tractors arriving, someone else having shot it before I could unbeknown to me, the weather not being on my favour or largely when I’ve just left it too long before shooting and they’ve decided to go elsewhere! If I knew I’d only ever shoot half a dozen pigeons in a session from now on, I’d find another hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted Saturday at 20:26 Report Share Posted Saturday at 20:26 43 minutes ago, Wilts#Dave said: He hasn’t yet replied, but I’d wager on him having very little ground to shoot over along with lack of experience (possibly due to lack of pigeons to go at). I’ve had plenty of poor days that don’t turn out as expected, but as with most experienced pigeon shooters I’ve generally already watched where I will be shooting prior to the event so have a fair idea of the opportunity I may be in for. Most of my poor days are due to other factors, fields being turned over unexpectedly/tractors arriving, someone else having shot it before I could unbeknown to me, the weather not being on my favour or largely when I’ve just left it too long before shooting and they’ve decided to go elsewhere! If I knew I’d only ever shoot half a dozen pigeons in a session from now on, I’d find another hobby. Pigeon decoying require a certain amount of homework at the best of times , and if you are trying to provide some decoying for someone else then it require even more as you will need a plan b and a plan c to allow for something going wrong on the day , this could be a number of things like the field being cut , contractors taking the bales off , sub soiling and many other reasons , if you have done your homework and have got enough land then it don't become a problem , weather can also be a problem as well , a member who I took once came from Essex or was coming from Essex , the harvest was in full swing and I spent most of the week looking for the best situation , I knew two stubble fields that held a lot of Pigeons , I kept an eye on it and even asked the farm manager if the big oblong bales will still be there on the Saturday , yes they will be there on the Saturday and the contractors are coming Monday to take them off , this was ideal , we could either go together or shoot a field each , I was keeping an eye on the weather as they forecasted heavy rain and thunderstorms around our way over the weekend , right up until Friday it was still on and then at teatime it all changed , the rain should arrive Saturday morning and thunder and lightening by dinnertime , what do I do ? take a chance or call it off , with plenty of fields still to cut I rang the chap up and looking at the weather we decided to call it off and see what it was like the following Saturday , anyway I thought if the rain held off till late I would shoot the field by myself , in the Summer months I don't go till early afternoon and after a sunny morning it soon clouded over and in the distance you could hear the thunder , very soon it arrived and we would had got soaked and it would had been a waste of time , by the following Saturday I found a new location and everything went to plan , we went just after dinner and shot nearly 70 , we shot from the same hide and had a lovely afternoon with some nice shooting , somewhere way back on the forum was an account of our afternoon out , so t b h it shouldn't be to difficult to find a field to easily beat the ops two best bags , but even so you would still need to do a certain amount of homework and then have a back up plan , just in case MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilts#Dave Posted Sunday at 00:30 Report Share Posted Sunday at 00:30 3 hours ago, marsh man said: Pigeon decoying require a certain amount of homework at the best of times , and if you are trying to provide some decoying for someone else then it require even more as you will need a plan b and a plan c to allow for something going wrong on the day , this could be a number of things like the field being cut , contractors taking the bales off , sub soiling and many other reasons , if you have done your homework and have got enough land then it don't become a problem , weather can also be a problem as well , a member who I took once came from Essex or was coming from Essex , the harvest was in full swing and I spent most of the week looking for the best situation , I knew two stubble fields that held a lot of Pigeons , I kept an eye on it and even asked the farm manager if the big oblong bales will still be there on the Saturday , yes they will be there on the Saturday and the contractors are coming Monday to take them off , this was ideal , we could either go together or shoot a field each , I was keeping an eye on the weather as they forecasted heavy rain and thunderstorms around our way over the weekend , right up until Friday it was still on and then at teatime it all changed , the rain should arrive Saturday morning and thunder and lightening by dinnertime , what do I do ? take a chance or call it off , with plenty of fields still to cut I rang the chap up and looking at the weather we decided to call it off and see what it was like the following Saturday , anyway I thought if the rain held off till late I would shoot the field by myself , in the Summer months I don't go till early afternoon and after a sunny morning it soon clouded over and in the distance you could hear the thunder , very soon it arrived and we would had got soaked and it would had been a waste of time , by the following Saturday I found a new location and everything went to plan , we went just after dinner and shot nearly 70 , we shot from the same hide and had a lovely afternoon with some nice shooting , somewhere way back on the forum was an account of our afternoon out , so t b h it shouldn't be to difficult to find a field to easily beat the ops two best bags , but even so you would still need to do a certain amount of homework and then have a back up plan , just in case MM Agree, as well as finding them other factors need to go your way. I’ve never shot with anyone else until last October when a keeper I supply with pigeons offered me a day. We had to go when the weather was right, and there was a large number of pigeons using a large block of late cut spring barley stubble so plenty concentrated in an area. It seemed very odd having to set up in a spot I’d not chosen or watched and I was sceptical of the shooting I’d get when he directed me to the far end of the block with no birds on or visible lines in compared with where he set up, but he assured me he thought I’d get some sport there and I did. He did have a lot more shooting than me for the first few hours but I plugged away and had some great sport in the latter part of the afternoon where it tailed off for him and hotted up for me and finished on 191 and him/his friend in their hide 245. He’d done his homework and knew there was a large volume of birds with no other choice at the time than where we were, and it worked a treat. I shot with him a week later in the same hide together and his friend shot my hide position, with him shooting 145 to our 100 which just goes to show how every day is different. It’s a hobby like no other in my opinion, and certainly requires a lot of time / experience if you want to shoot good bags regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchrat Posted Sunday at 11:57 Report Share Posted Sunday at 11:57 18 hours ago, marsh man said: And that was on the same day I hope the op don't take our comments like our good friend from the depth of the fine county Essex did at first , now we are all the best of friends and I did hear we are on this years Christmas card list and an invite for a days Pigeon shooting , after he said he walked all his gear over 500 yds over a muddy field then sadly I turned his kind offer down , mind you the card would be very nice Sadly, I don't do Xmas.Please use this to buy yourself a drink - Cheers!! NB I am beating tomorrow then doing the 500-yard slog again on Tuesday, wish me luck!! Cheers and Happy New Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted Sunday at 12:16 Report Share Posted Sunday at 12:16 6 minutes ago, kitchrat said: Sadly, I don't do Xmas.Please use this to buy yourself a drink - Cheers!! NB I am beating tomorrow then doing the 500-yard slog again on Tuesday, wish me luck!! Cheers and Happy New Year. I still do Christmas , well partly but sadly I don't drink so I have put your kind offer in the semi retired Pigeon Shooters benevolent fund , I am sure you will agree it is a worthy cause . We were out all day yesterday and with the frost still in the ground it was fairly easy getting about but cold when you were waiting for the drive to start , one of those cold days where the beaters were better off walking about than the guns standing about in the cold . Game wise we had a good day even though the conditions were very still with no wind , the gas guns were going off but we saw very few Pigeons , the ones that we did see they were packed in the Ivy trees eating the berries, Good luck for tomorrow and I hope the 500 yard walk over wet plough will be worth it , but then I don't envy your walk back . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted Sunday at 12:18 Report Share Posted Sunday at 12:18 Needs a flying car......................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted Sunday at 12:22 Report Share Posted Sunday at 12:22 3 minutes ago, marsh man said: Good luck for tomorrow and I hope the 500 yard walk over wet plough will be worth it , but then I don't envy your walk back . A 500 yard walk over wet plough in Essex soon comes to a sticky halt after,,,,, 5 yards at best 🤭😆😂 Best option is TC's suggestion 👍🤣 3 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Needs a flying car......................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchrat Posted Sunday at 17:23 Report Share Posted Sunday at 17:23 5 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Needs a flying car......................................... This is what I need, straight over the crops to the hide location, back with the fallen, no problem!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted Sunday at 17:27 Report Share Posted Sunday at 17:27 4 minutes ago, kitchrat said: This is what I need, straight over the crops to the hide location, back with the fallen, no problem!! quad bike and a van. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted Sunday at 17:41 Report Share Posted Sunday at 17:41 It would be good if the op got into the conversation instead of us keep talking amongst our selves , we are not really a bad lot of guys and will try and help if the op show any interest instead of just making a statement with very little back up , we are not mind readers , well some out there might be but I don't even know what go on in my own mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchrat Posted Sunday at 18:58 Report Share Posted Sunday at 18:58 1 hour ago, old'un said: quad bike and a van. Can't go OVER the crops though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockybasher Posted Sunday at 20:51 Report Share Posted Sunday at 20:51 3 hours ago, old'un said: quad bike and a van. Those are the right colours too. Should ensure the pigeons come in really close. I think what you need now is the same colours for your hide ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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