Guest The Outlaw Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 I have been speaking to a friend of mine that has been banned from the forum because he has been letting a work colleague use his PC to post on here as well. It seems that they had the same IP thingy and one of them being Pirate was banned. Why, I and Calam have used the same IP thingy since day one and have not had any probs. So do other husband and wife and father and son etc. The problem is the Pirate is the computer owner and his mate has still got access. Pirate is a ground owner and leading coach with the BASC, APSI and ISCI and has a lot of useful info he can share with others I think this is madness and power crazy Moding to a new level. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 I have been speaking to a friend of mine that has been banned from the forum because he has been letting a work colleague use his PC to post on here as well. It seems that they had the same IP thingy and one of them being Pirate was banned. Why, I and Calam have used the same IP thingy since day one and have not had any probs. So do other husband and wife and father and son etc. The problem is the Pirate is the computer owner and his mate has still got access. Pirate is a ground owner and leading coach with the BASC, APSI and ISCI and has a lot of useful info he can share with others I think this is madness and power crazy Moding to a new level. Tony Tony, PM Axe, Teal or even Stuart P (best ones out the bunch to deal with) and they may be able to help you out and give you the answers you require. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Power crazy modding aside, if your mate lets someone use his computer and they come on here and call everyone a **** then bannage is a natural result. Frankly, I already had stored up my excuse for if I got a ban and I was going to roll out exactly the same excuse - I left the PC on and someone at home / work / off the street came in and started posting abusive or offensive material. The next one was sleep typing and the one after that was that I was out drinking with Berettaman, lost a week and am apologising to everyone I know and in the process saw that I had been banned off PW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 I have been speaking to a friend of mine that has been banned from the forum because he has been letting a work colleague use his PC to post on here as well. It seems that they had the same IP thingy and one of them being Pirate was banned. Why, I and Calam have used the same IP thingy since day one and have not had any probs. So do other husband and wife and father and son etc. The problem is the Pirate is the computer owner and his mate has still got access. Pirate is a ground owner and leading coach with the BASC, APSI and ISCI and has a lot of useful info he can share with others I think this is madness and power crazy Moding to a new level. Tony Tony, PM Axe, Teal or even Stuart P (best ones out the bunch to deal with) and they may be able to help you out and give you the answers you require. It was Axe that contacted Pirate. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Power crazy modding aside, if your mate lets someone use his computer and they come on here and call everyone a **** then bannage is a natural result. Frankly, I already had stored up my excuse for if I got a ban and I was going to roll out exactly the same excuse - I left the PC on and someone at home / work / off the street came in and started posting abusive or offensive material. The next one was sleep typing and the one after that was that I was out drinking with Berettaman, lost a week and am apologising to everyone I know and in the process saw that I had been banned off PW. Pirate has not insulted or sworn on this site and is a well respected member of the shooting community. The other user of his PC is still able to go on PW but has been suspended. Pirate has an outright ban. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 It was Axe that contacted Pirate. Tony In that case then - your mate is screwed P.S. - i wasn't having a dig at the other mods in my original post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 It was Axe that contacted Pirate. Tony In that case then - your mate is screwed P.S. - i wasn't having a dig at the other mods in my original post I hope not because that wouldnt be fair. Are they going to ban all of the other double users of this site I think you were but wont admit it :lol: ony Ps Calam and I can prove we are different posters because we are both online at the same time because we have two PC's And if you look at any of the Pull mags you will see us both on the Bucks skeet team photo and are both on the committee. The Great Cornholio is a friend of ours and A K A knows of us as well. Tony What about Mrs sweepy and Mr Sweepy are they going to get banned as well I hope not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuck1 Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 C'mon guys cut the mods a bit of slack. They are only taking steps to solve the problem, I'm sure they don't have access to enough high tech wizardry to establish who is who on the same PC and only ban them, or whatever. Maybe if The Pirate gets in touch there could be a solution found. I think Mungler has hit the nail on the head actually. (He's been slipping under the radar for quite some time now! Only kidding Mung). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 I would admit it freely - as i have done in the past but this is one of the very few occasions, when i truly wasn't haveing a dig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 C'mon guys cut the mods a bit of slack. They are only taking steps to solve the problem, I'm sure they don't have access to enough high tech wizardry to establish who is who on the same PC and only ban them, or whatever. Maybe if The Pirate gets in touch there could be a solution found. I think Mungler has hit the nail on the head actually. (He's been slipping under the radar for quite some time now! Only kidding Mung). How can Pirate get in touch if he has been banned, I believe he responded to the PM from AXE and that hasnt been answered. You only have to look at the IP thingy to see if the posting members are using the same modem i think. This used to be done on our old forum at WWW.Draytonclays.co.uk. But our mods checked properly first before banning people. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Power crazy modding aside, if your mate lets someone use his computer and they come on here and call everyone a **** then bannage is a natural result. Frankly, I already had stored up my excuse for if I got a ban and I was going to roll out exactly the same excuse - I left the PC on and someone at home / work / off the street came in and started posting abusive or offensive material. The next one was sleep typing and the one after that was that I was out drinking with Berettaman, lost a week and am apologising to everyone I know and in the process saw that I had been banned off PW. Ouch! just came back from the dentist,Laughed so loud I have just bitten my ******* tongue, Which isnt quite frozen! Thanks Andy, you **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Who will give me decent odds on this post being closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Tony, Before trying to incite riot, why not allow us to work at a problem. I happen to know that the matter is being looked into, however we are not on here 24/7 and the moderating member that is taking care of this is not on at present. Have some patiance. NTTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Tony, Before trying to incite riot, why not allow us to work at a problem. I happen to know that the matter is being looked into, however we are not on here 24/7 and the moderating member that is taking care of this is not on at present. Have some patiance. NTTF Fair comment NTTF but why wasnt this dealt with patiently, and investigated properly, Pirate has had a message back telling him the mods decision stands. "Jumping the gun" rings a bell on this one. Pirate cant check his PM's because he is banned and he is getting them relayed via his friend. This isnt going to gain the mods any respect unless it is sorted out. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 If we are trotting out clichés, "storm in a teacup" springs to mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 If we are trotting out clichés, "storm in a teacup" springs to mind... It depends if you have been banned unfairly or not. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Why is it when myself or one of the other Moderators performs a task to uphold the rules, that every single member of this forum has agreed to abide by, gets accused of being a power hungry moderator. I guess its part of being a moderator to expect that no one will say thank you and those that fall foul of the rules will complain. Just like me moaning to a traffic warden that has just stuck a ticket on my screen because I have parked on a double yellow. We make decisions as a team and this works well for the collective good of the forum and its members. You can please most of the people most of the time, but never all of the people all of the time. Its something we have to live with, as passionate as we are for this forum. We are always willing to discuss any issue that a member has via the private message system, where such conversations should take place. This forum as other forums, is constantly growing and therefore has to adjust accordingly. But just as other forums, the busier it gets, the more moderating is required. Just as this topic will be watched and moderated if it gets ridiculous and out of hand. Tony, there are always exceptions to rules that we as moderators reluctantly permit for members such as yourself where parent & child or husband & wife, use the same PC to post on PW. Specifically, Pirate contacted me via the user account Toddles (draw your own conclusions) and did receive a reply. As for the notion that he/she can not use the message system to contact me, then please re-read the previous sentence. I am always happy to discuss any issue with a member of the forum as is my task as a moderator. If you wish to discuss this with me, then you are more than welcome to PM me where I will be happy to do so. But please don't expect me or any other moderator to view a topic of this nature with any pleasure. Remember we are human too, not power crazed robotic mods. Edit: Oh and yes, Berettaman1 I have just gone through and removed all the offending 'C's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Why is it when myself or one of the other Moderators performs a task to uphold the rules, that every single member of this forum has agreed to abide by, gets accused of being a power hungry moderator. I guess its part of being a moderator to expect that no one will say thank you and those that fall foul of the rules will complain. Just like me moaning to a traffic warden that has just stuck a ticket on my screen because I have parked on a double yellow. We make decisions as a team and this works well for the collective good of the forum and its members. You can please most of the people most of the time, but never all of the people all of the time. Its something we have to live with, as passionate as we are for this forum. We are always willing to discuss any issue that a member has via the private message system, where such conversations should take place. This forum as other forums, is constantly growing and therefore has to adjust accordingly. But just as other forums, the busier it gets, the more moderating is required. Just as this topic will be watched and moderated if it gets ridiculous and out of hand. Tony, there are always exceptions to rules that we as moderators reluctantly permit for members such as yourself where parent & child or husband & wife, use the same PC to post on PW. Specifically, Pirate contacted me via the user account Toddles (draw your own conclusions) and did receive a reply. As for the notion that he/she can not use the message system to contact me, then please re-read the previous sentence. I am always happy to discuss any issue with a member of the forum as is my task as a moderator. If you wish to discuss this with me, then you are more than welcome to PM me where I will be happy to do so. But please don't expect me or any other moderator to view a topic of this nature with any pleasure. Remember we are human too, not power crazed robotic mods. Again fair comment but being in the position the mods put themselves in leaves them open to critisism fair or not. But again Pirate had to respond to you in the other profile because he is banned. This topic is justified and should be seen by the other members because we are talking about a member that can not pm you and this is his way of raising his point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Hey AXE, I have just saw what you said about my deleted post on .177 pellets, where did I use any swear words on it?? the answer is none, All I did was try (in my usual clumsy fashion and ask if the seller was a care in the community type,) which anyone who read it could see it was my usual sarcastic reply to daft adverts or comments. I owe Henry D a sorry here as I thought he was the moderator who pulled it!. that thread was not offensive to members on this site(I hope) and I must admit the thought Power mad moderator sprung to mind ,when I saw it had been pulled!! If you want to be fair here Axe then put back on here the thread I put on, and see if PW members agree with you or me, if it was offensive? Dare you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Read line 3 here that is why a lot of posts are removed from this section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Read line 3 here that is why a lot of posts are removed from this section. Henry can you confirm who this is directed at please? Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 The one above by bm1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Read line 3 here that is why a lot of posts are removed from this section. Henry can you confirm who this is directed at please? Tony all of us .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 The one above by bm1 Ok mate Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Where's that classic PIN post gone in response to moderator bashing. I can't find it but can summarise : "if you don't like it ****** off" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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