lurcherboy Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Floating Chamber, Do you ever go shooting in any areas where you meet joe public on a regular basis? LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Mungler and LB you are spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 You did the right thing. If you meet him again and he tries the same **** though, it could be time to go all Mungler on his a**! ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Cupra, I have experienced the very same thing many times when I first started deeking and like you, I held me tongue, packed up and went home. I now tell them to **** *** as they are straying from a footpath and they do not have the intelligence to understand the right to roam legislation and then I give them my address etc. Next time someone tells you there son/daughter is the whatever important position they say tell them that you **** them when their partner is out and they pay you for the privilege and thank you. Drastic but true and I swear I have never had any comeback after one of them deliverys.... so far. LB Now that is a bit of me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggyRS6 Posted November 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 I had no idea this thread would generate so much interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 There is nothing worse than a "don't you know who I am?" or "my [insert friend or relative] is very senior in the [insert details of freemason lodge, church, police force, local authority]" type of person. Rather than argue with someone like that, just go for extreme vulgarity. "Why don't you **** right off you old **** before I come over there and smack 7 bells of **** out of you". Will make you feel better and provided he isn't recording it, well you can write the most polite letter to your FAO and deny all knowledge. Sometimes you give good advice, at other times (like above) you come out with total **** yet you are quick to chastise others for similar comments! FC - I have to ask but do you take your dogs for walks in orchards in Kent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusk2dawn Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 The problem I frequently have is Horse riders who are supposed to follow a designated and very well marked route along the edge of our shoot.Some of them, "who know the landowner well", insist upon investigating any shooting going on and deviate several hundred yards only to pop out of a gap in the hedgerow close by the hide, on an obviously distressed horse that has been forced ever closer to the sound of shots and then just sitting there watching us. This then requires me/us to stop shooting and go and ask politely if we can help them to find their way back to the toll ride. The lack of intelligence or is it arrogance beggers belief, Sorry if I have gone off topic but the other question now is how do we stand shooting near legally designated bridleways are they to be treated in the same way as a highway? D2D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggyRS6 Posted November 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 British Association of Shooting and Conservation: Code of Good Shooting Practice (extract) The public highway * Shoot managers and Guns must ensure that shooting does not obstruct, cause danger or alarm to users of the public highway, including roads, bridleways, footpaths and other rights of way. * In particular, care should be taken when siting Guns near public highways. Section 161 of the Highways Act 1980 (England & Wales) makes it an offence to discharge a firearm within 50 ft of the centre of a highway having vehicular rights without lawful authority or excuse, if as a result a user of the highway is injured, interrupted or endangered. * The Highways Act does not apply in Scotland but Procurators Fiscal may use common law offences of 'culpable and reckless conduct' and 'reckless endangerment' in situations in which the 1980 Act would be contravened in England and Wales. * To shoot across a footpath or bridleway may constitute a public nuisance or wilful obstruction. There may also be a liability in negligence if it is known that people are on, or likely to be on, the path. * Information signs, if appropriate, should be erected on shoot days on footpaths or bridleways. * The siting of release pens near highways should be avoided. Game managers should collect and dispose of road casualties where possible. * Shoot managers must not position Guns in such a way that spent shot or birds might fall onto the road. Horses and Walkers * Shoot managers and Guns must have special regard to the safety of riders and their horses. Noise from gunfire, beaters working in cover adjacent to bridleways or the sound of falling shot can all cause a horse to bolt. * Where possible shoot organisers should liase with local riders or yards, informing them when shoots are taking place. * It may be appropriate for shooting or beating to pause to allow horses or other rights of way users to pass. * All Guns should be made aware of bridleways and other rights of way as well as any fields in which horses are kept. Drives should be organised with this in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 I have to say there is an element of Munglers advice that is actually good. What you have to remember is you are partaking in a legal activity with permision to be on private property and it is usually the complainant who is in the wrong. By packing up you are acting like you are doing something wrong which you aren't. The best option is to check how the landowner feels about you pointing out where the footpaths are to people on his land. Most will say just put them right obviously you can do this politely to start with but quite a few only react to a more forceful approach. Of course you make sure the gun is unloaded and in its slip while you do this as you don't want to get accused of threatening with a firearm etc. As for horses well you have to be careful but they are the biggest pisstakers going for riding where they shouldn't, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 There is nothing worse than a "don't you know who I am?" or "my [insert friend or relative] is very senior in the [insert details of freemason lodge, church, police force, local authority]" type of person. Rather than argue with someone like that, just go for extreme vulgarity. "Why don't you **** right off you old **** before I come over there and smack 7 bells of **** out of you". Will make you feel better and provided he isn't recording it, well you can write the most polite letter to your FAO and deny all knowledge. Sometimes you give good advice, at other times (like above) you come out with total **** yet you are quick to chastise others for similar comments! FC - I have to ask but do you take your dogs for walks in orchards in Kent? Why, Mung, have they jailed the wrong man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Floating Chamber, Do you ever go shooting in any areas where you meet joe public on a regular basis? LB Yup! The shoot is often used by dog-walkers. We put up signs at access points warning them to keep out when shooting is in progress. No probs. People can READ round here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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