jimdfish Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 I have just caught my neighbours kid ( he is not all there im sure ) leaning over my fence firing one of those crappy air pistols that fire out the little yellow balls. I could not understand why my new puppy was so gun shy until I saw him shooting at Her! I went mad and his mother came out complaining that the "gun" was only a toy and could not hurt anyone. Does anyone know the law concerning these as I am pretty sure that even is the gun is not illegal in criminal terms he must be commiting some sort of tresspass. i did speak to his dad and offer to take the pair of them out and teach them some gun manners, but the father only sulked as his son did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palombier Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 Jimdfish It depends on what sort of gun it is and of course what age the boy is. Under 10 he is incapable of committing an offence. If it is a BB gun that has a spring mechanism then he is not committing any offence. If however it is one of these air soft BB guns which are powered by CO2 or some sort of pumped air then I think they are technically air weapons and he may commit certain offences to do with them. I.e. firing beyond the boundary or using unsupervised. They are not classed as firearms because they have no lethality so he couldn't for example commit an offence of trespassing with a firearm. Its all a bit technical I'm afraid Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 Jim, sounds like the whole familly need a sound thrashing. But seriously, why not try the RSPCA as your dog was being abused. I know they are not everyones favourite organisation but if he has not commited a criminal offence it may be your only avenue. Good luck and keep us all posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 (edited) With plastic BB's I am nearly sure it is a BB gun, as such he is not breaking any laws as far as I know? Maybe ring up our good friends the RSPCA and tell them this guy is shooting your dog, if this guy doesn't respond to common sense perhaps they can sort him out Umm just realised my post is practically identical to lurcher boys, I just read your first post and replied. D'oh! Edited June 14, 2004 by Teal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 Its nice to know I am in good company Teal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 > I.e. firing beyond the boundary Illegality number one >They are not classed as firearms because they have no lethality so he couldn't for example commit an offence of trespassing with a firearm. A banana in a plastic bag can be used to commit a firearms offense, as long as the victim believes it is a gun then it is treated as such, there fore it is very probably armed trespass, although obviously your word against theirs I beleive as long as their output is under 1.35 Joules they are classed as toys so in theory he wouldnt need supervising Just kindly point out that it is illegal, probably armed trepass, and maybe even offer to show the kid how to shoot responsibly, or suggest a local club. No point in getting aggressive with them or they will be so back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palombier Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 Rarms Point taken although it would be classed as an imitation firearm as a firearm is a lethal barrelled weapon and obviously a banana is not. You are right the offence of trespass can be committed with an imitation or an air pistol,so I was wrong. Apologies for the misleading info. On the subject of these air soft toys with a limited power output there has recently been a stated case(Rv Street(i think)) where these weapons were classified as air weapons. although they are not sufficiently powerful to be classed as lethal barrelled weapons under the S.57 FA. definition etc.,which of course a normal air weapon is. Regards P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdfish Posted June 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 The Father of the child spoke to me again and gave me a mouthfull after I had again offered to take his his pillock progeny out shooting and teach him how to handle a gun. Give up, lost cause, I will have to get used to the fact that the neighbours IQ equals a lettuce. JIMDFISH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Get a rottie with attitude. I would like to see him shoot that and get away with it. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak47 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 the balls/pellets shouldnt leave there garden FULL stop! im sure the police wouldnt like people shooting neighbours dogs how irrisponsible of the parents what **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTaylor2k4 Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 agree with ak47, if my dog was shot by a kid i'd go mad, you cant just shoot someones dog! i think the least the police would do is go round to thier house to have a word, that would probably shut them up. have they got a dog? Mwahahahahaha! :blink: joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antuk99 Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 wot about that sticky paint for the fence :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 This will get edited by the mods but .... Pop round next door and shove your weapon up his mothers &$$ and pepper her with your balls ... lmao .... awaiting the bad :blink: all the best yis yp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squintshot Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 How about getting yourself an air soft gun and when no ones looking shoot the little ******* in the **** see how he likes it. If he's not the full shiling anyway you'll do no harm and just deny it!!! Not very nice or ethical i know but if someones ill treats my dog they get a boot up the ****!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdfish Posted June 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 squintshot laughed out loud mate .Bloody good idea. jimDfish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Airsoft guns are only allowed to be up to one joule in power. Also, the kid should not even have one. You have to be 14 to own one and 17 to buy one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Assuming you don,t live in a semi, burn their house down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squintshot Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Am of the old school of thought, i don't go in for the whole litigious thing I thing. An eye for an eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcherreed Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 bb guns are pretty cool when u n lads have a skirmish but.......... i think there is somesort of law. they dont hurt much but they can come kean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowstopper Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 I could not stand for it I would have to do as squintshot said and Get him with a BB gun and see how he likes it (co2 if i could find 1) crowstopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTaylor2k4 Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 www.gunsnguys.com ok, it will cost roughly £80 including shipping from hong kong, but you will have a full auto gas Glock 18! Muhuhahaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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