markbivvy Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770 Mr Miliband dismissed the need to free Mrs Gibbons, saying it would be easier to let her serve the jail sentence in full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Mr Miliband dismissed the need to free Mrs Gibbons, saying it would be easier to let her serve the jail sentence in full. I quite agree, it would have been easier to let her serve the 2 week sentance in full. Question is should he have left her to it? Personally I think he should have. It was only 2 weeks inside. When you go to a country like that you should be aware that the culture is so very different from our own. Would I go to Saudi Arabia and take some alcohol or steal something. Would I ****. Why? Because I know they would cut my hands off! I also think if we were to treat a visiting muslim in a different way if they broke the law here then that would be wrong. Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Mr Miliband dismissed the need to free Mrs Gibbons, saying it would be easier to let her serve the jail sentence in full. I quite agree, it would have been easier to let her serve the 2 week sentance in full. Question is should he have left her to it? Personally I think he should have. It was only 2 weeks inside. When you go to a country like that you should be aware that the culture is so very different from our own. Would I go to Saudi Arabia and take some alcohol or steal something. Would I ****. Why? Because I know they would cut my hands off! I also think if we were to treat a visiting muslim in a different way if they broke the law here then that would be wrong. Harry no change from the old bill there then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Mr Miliband dismissed the need to free Mrs Gibbons, saying it would be easier to let her serve the jail sentence in full. I quite agree, it would have been easier to let her serve the 2 week sentance in full. Question is should he have left her to it? Personally I think he should have. It was only 2 weeks inside. When you go to a country like that you should be aware that the culture is so very different from our own. Would I go to Saudi Arabia and take some alcohol or steal something. Would I ****. Why? Because I know they would cut my hands off! I also think if we were to treat a visiting muslim in a different way if they broke the law here then that would be wrong. Harry Cmon Harry, this Goverment turns a blind eye to people who demonstrate against us , threatening death to non believers!! any other goverment would arrest and/or deport such scum.not this bunch of cowardly looney leftyies who control us.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark539 Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I agree with most of you. If your in a muslim country, which sudan abviously is, you dont do anything you think might offend themshe should have known thsi alraedy especially if she had already spent time thre before she did this unless she had a paper bag over her head for the duration. My only concern is that was there any sensitivity training carried out before she left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I agree with most of you. If your in a muslim country, which sudan abviously is, you dont do anything you think might offend themshe should have known thsi alraedy especially if she had already spent time thre before she did this unless she had a paper bag over her head for the duration. My only concern is that was there any sensitivity training carried out before she left. but she is getting on in years,and it was not entirely her fault. we here about compassion and understanding over here for them. but they have none full stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark539 Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 its not about were better than them. Its simple fact that they are a muslim country they are feircly protective of there diety and they will not take kindly to people micky taking. She should have known this all she had to do is turn on the news to find out. I have one muslim friend ive never been taught about islam ive never been to a muslim country yet i still know not to insult there prophet. You cant say just because we tolerate something in our country that they should in theres. People that do that we call Americans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I can speak from experience having visited the middle east on many visits, They are all strict Muslims until they get a chance to leave for any reason and then many want to become western, and even change clothes on the plane ( I have seen this) you often find there is a few stirring the others up and when many would take a moderate view over things like this they feel they have to support their own who bang the gong of treason and wind the others up, you must remember there are many movements who will plant protagonist in any situation they can effect some gain from it, I am sure most Muslims are normal folk who just want to get on in life but unfortunately they have there activist like we have our Chavs! Pavman the voice of reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 its not about were better than them. i never said it was, but now you come to mention it i think we are . a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 My understanding of the situation is that it was not the teacher who named the teddy bear rather it was a popular vote among pupils who were naming the bear after the most popular boys name in the Muslim world. All sympathy to the lady even if she were a little naive. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770 Mr Miliband dismissed the need to free Mrs Gibbons, saying it would be easier to let her serve the jail sentence in full. As usual everyone seems to have gone off the thread a bit ! Personally I'd like to think (I know I live in cloud cuckoo land) that my government would do all in it's power (including sending in the gunboats) to get me otta there if ever I was banged up in a foreign country for something so trivial. At least reason (and possibly inter government threats) prevailed in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Mr Miliband dismissed the need to free Mrs Gibbons, saying it would be easier to let her serve the jail sentence in full. I quite agree, it would have been easier to let her serve the 2 week sentance in full. Question is should he have left her to it? Personally I think he should have. It was only 2 weeks inside. When you go to a country like that you should be aware that the culture is so very different from our own. Would I go to Saudi Arabia and take some alcohol or steal something. Would I ****. Why? Because I know they would cut my hands off! I also think if we were to treat a visiting muslim in a different way if they broke the law here then that would be wrong. Harry What are you talking about? You honestly think she deserved to do time for naming a teddy bear by the "wrong" name? If you are a representitive of the uk police we are all *****d And to say "if we were to treat a visiting muslim different if they broke the law here would be wrong" well hello wake up smell the coffee,they get away with a hell of a lot more than the rest of the population,because you lot have to be "sensitive" to their faith and are tippy toeing around because you can be accused of being racist.You say you wouldnt go to a muslim country and go against there laws and culture its a pity it doesnt work both ways eh! They stand on our streets chanting kill,kill,kill what happens?...The NEXT day a couple of them are arrested,they werent arrested on the day because it might have inflamed the situation,so they were allowed to get on with it,suicide suits an all. A few months before that some people were demonstrating about civil liberties and there way of life being curtailed by the government (aka foxhunting ban)and what was the response to these middle class mainly white demonstrators?A baton charge,cs gas police in full riot gear wielding batons on oap,women and children..So your everyone is treated the same sounds great and would be even better if it was practiced.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Mr Miliband dismissed the need to free Mrs Gibbons, saying it would be easier to let her serve the jail sentence in full. I quite agree, it would have been easier to let her serve the 2 week sentance in full. Question is should he have left her to it? Personally I think he should have. It was only 2 weeks inside. When you go to a country like that you should be aware that the culture is so very different from our own. Would I go to Saudi Arabia and take some alcohol or steal something. Would I ****. Why? Because I know they would cut my hands off! I also think if we were to treat a visiting muslim in a different way if they broke the law here then that would be wrong. Harry What are you talking about? You honestly think she deserved to do time for naming a teddy bear by the "wrong" name? If you are a representitive of the uk police we are all *****d And to say "if we were to treat a visiting muslim different if they broke the law here would be wrong" well hello wake up smell the coffee,they get away with a hell of a lot more than the rest of the population,because you lot have to be "sensitive" to their faith and are tippy toeing around because you can be accused of being racist.You say you wouldnt go to a muslim country and go against there laws and culture its a pity it doesnt work both ways eh! They stand on our streets chanting kill,kill,kill what happens?...The NEXT day a couple of them are arrested,they werent arrested on the day because it might have inflamed the situation,so they were allowed to get on with it,suicide suits an all. A few months before that some people were demonstrating about civil liberties and there way of life being curtailed by the government (aka foxhunting ban)and what was the response to these middle class mainly white demonstrators?A baton charge,cs gas police in full riot gear wielding batons on oap,women and children..So your everyone is treated the same sounds great and would be even better if it was practiced.. good post BB. same as the hunt march when women and children where clubbed for nothing. has anyone ever seen a immigrunt get treated like this. some folk should get out of there t5 now and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 What's the point in berating old bill...his stock answer will be ('cause they're taught it at an early age) 'It's not my fault, I was only doing my job!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I think he meant it would be 'cheaper' to leave her serve her time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Mr Miliband dismissed the need to free Mrs Gibbons, saying it would be easier to let her serve the jail sentence in full. I quite agree, it would have been easier to let her serve the 2 week sentance in full. Question is should he have left her to it? Personally I think he should have. It was only 2 weeks inside. When you go to a country like that you should be aware that the culture is so very different from our own. Would I go to Saudi Arabia and take some alcohol or steal something. Would I ****. Why? Because I know they would cut my hands off! I also think if we were to treat a visiting muslim in a different way if they broke the law here then that would be wrong. Harry What are you talking about? You honestly think she deserved to do time for naming a teddy bear by the "wrong" name? If you are a representitive of the uk police we are all *****d And to say "if we were to treat a visiting muslim different if they broke the law here would be wrong" well hello wake up smell the coffee,they get away with a hell of a lot more than the rest of the population,because you lot have to be "sensitive" to their faith and are tippy toeing around because you can be accused of being racist.You say you wouldnt go to a muslim country and go against there laws and culture its a pity it doesnt work both ways eh! They stand on our streets chanting kill,kill,kill what happens?...The NEXT day a couple of them are arrested,they werent arrested on the day because it might have inflamed the situation,so they were allowed to get on with it,suicide suits an all. A few months before that some people were demonstrating about civil liberties and there way of life being curtailed by the government (aka foxhunting ban)and what was the response to these middle class mainly white demonstrators?A baton charge,cs gas police in full riot gear wielding batons on oap,women and children..So your everyone is treated the same sounds great and would be even better if it was practiced.. Wise words, B B, I am starting to be worried that even our? police are now taking the wrong side now, ( Islamic Oops ignore what hese up to, pick on /arrest that white citizen over there instead) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Can someone tell me why there is a 'Black and Asian Police Officers' Association' (or similar) and why a 'White Police Officers Association' would not be allowed? I asked my local Council member (an ex-policeman) is reply was .... 'Don't ask' What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakker01 Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Can someone tell me why there is a 'Black and Asian Police Officers' Association' (or similar) and why a 'White Police Officers Association' would not be allowed?I asked my local Council member (an ex-policeman) is reply was .... 'Don't ask' What? because you 'honky's make no fuss !! yas just moan to each other, cluk, cluk !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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