kdubya Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 I am a old bloke now but I cant believe how this New Labour Goverment has sold our Country down the river, who can forget the London Dome Folly?.the honours for cash sleaze?Council care homes being closed down? hospital wards being closed down?all the new MRSA bugs invading the hospitals due to hygene care being shut down due to cut backs? Cancer patients being refused life saving drugs(Unless you live in Scotland)? All the new stealth taxes being imposed all the time by councils ? The proposals to charge motorists more than a £1 per mile at peak times? The time 2 years ago when Brown sold off half our gold reserves then saw the price of gold nearly treble 3 weeks later, Blair in a vain attempt to win the hearts of the EU members giving back the billions Maggie Thatcher won for Britain against our unfair contribution to the EU? what about the gun crime that has prospered in big cities under New Labour? and the billions being squandered in this illegal war in afghanistan and Iraq?? how about our members of the Armed forces being maimed and killed in this Goverments name ? the list goes on and on..........I await my customary slaughter by the members who complain about my whinging about the millions of Muslims invading our country,!.....over to you Jim defish. See you fail to grasp who did the damage, yes nu lab ( bunch of control freaks and power mad lovies) are poor to say the least but look at your examples ie the dome set off and costed by the cons lab inherited it, honours for cash? come on give me a break the cons invented the term, council care homes nowt to do with constituency fund allocation was it, ie lowest poll tax and lady porter come to mind? mrsa ? nowt new came to light big time when the pinkies were privatised, and who did that ahh yes the cons? stealth taxes now then we would not need stealth taxes, had (yes you guessed it the cons)reduced top rate to 40% so the big boys could have a laugh at middle england yes ENGLAND who support this sodding Island now. thats it need a break me hed is urtin, see me spellin has gone to pot! we need grammar schools back now who got rid of them hmmn was it the cons? the theiving bunch of parasitic shirt lifting no goods! cheers KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Well I am sorry you did not see the picture as I see it. there are now many many schools in Britain where English is not the first language of the pupils, we no longer have any real border controls to stop any body strolling in to sponge off the state! all my previous remarks are true, as anticipated your remarks were to be expected. blame the tories for all the mistakes that NU Labour are doing. In closing I see Blair has now become a Catholic ? after all his belifies in abortion when he was in power. I read somewhere that he has converted so he thinks he can be president of the EU!. ah well , dont tell me thats the tories fault as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 I am a old bloke now but I cant believe how this New Labour Goverment has sold our Country down the river, who can forget the London Dome Folly?.the honours for cash sleaze?Council care homes being closed down? hospital wards being closed down?all the new MRSA bugs invading the hospitals due to hygene care being shut down due to cut backs? Cancer patients being refused life saving drugs(Unless you live in Scotland)? All the new stealth taxes being imposed all the time by councils ? The proposals to charge motorists more than a £1 per mile at peak times? The time 2 years ago when Brown sold off half our gold reserves then saw the price of gold nearly treble 3 weeks later, Blair in a vain attempt to win the hearts of the EU members giving back the billions Maggie Thatcher won for Britain against our unfair contribution to the EU? what about the gun crime that has prospered in big cities under New Labour? and the billions being squandered in this illegal war in afghanistan and Iraq?? how about our members of the Armed forces being maimed and killed in this Goverments name ? the list goes on and on..........I await my customary slaughter by the members who complain about my whinging about the millions of Muslims invading our country,!.....over to you Jim defish. See you fail to grasp who did the damage, yes nu lab ( bunch of control freaks and power mad lovies) are poor to say the least but look at your examples ie the dome set off and costed by the cons lab inherited it, honours for cash? come on give me a break the cons invented the term, council care homes nowt to do with constituency fund allocation was it, ie lowest poll tax and lady porter come to mind? mrsa ? nowt new came to light big time when the pinkies were privatised, and who did that ahh yes the cons? stealth taxes now then we would not need stealth taxes, had (yes you guessed it the cons)reduced top rate to 40% so the big boys could have a laugh at middle england yes ENGLAND who support this sodding Island now. thats it need a break me hed is urtin, see me spellin has gone to pot! we need grammar schools back now who got rid of them hmmn was it the cons? the theiving bunch of parasitic shirt lifting no goods! cheers KW Re highlighted Area perhaps you should be reminded of Mrs T's incomprehensables - in other words the socialists dislike of anything that meant that someone was allowed to fail brought in IIRC by the Brown goverment or just after, just as it is in education now the problems are inherited from the socialists attempts at social engineering - ie drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator and don't let merit suceed. Oh and if you are not a downtrodden scot take the hindmost, I refer to John Reid blocking legislation in England that is on the books in Scotland for being discriminatory of bad for us!! Mrs T did a lot of both harm and good but the good outways the bad generally, however all politicians in general are out to feather their own nest, the only two I can think of that were not were Churchill and Mrs T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Aah well everyone to their own , I was a NU LABOUR voter but never again. I have allready stated my concern what has now happened to our country, If as been stated its the fault of the conservaties, Why then have Nu Labour not corrected the demise of Britain? after all 11 years on the country is being run by PC lunatics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Why is there so much distaste among the unions then gentlemen? Every other post is having a dig. I can see there is many of you have probably have never been in heavy industry or were affected by the miners dispute. I will tell you all now if there was unions today as there was then you would not see all the Europeans we see now working overhere...... Thats a fact. The only mistake the majority of this country made was not supporting the miners. You all moan about the unions- But they were the forerunner of all the things you take for granted in your employee rights which they fought for.. Apprenticeships,Minimum wages,Holiday pay, maternity pay,statutory holiday and so on... If you never had the unions the UK workforce would have have washed years ago out to the Europeans you see now gainfully employed while you look for work. I am a union man and always will be, and I will stand and and be counted too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 I am a old bloke now but I cant believe how this New Labour Goverment has sold our Country down the river, who can forget the London Dome Folly?.the honours for cash sleaze?Council care homes being closed down? hospital wards being closed down?all the new MRSA bugs invading the hospitals due to hygene care being shut down due to cut backs? Cancer patients being refused life saving drugs(Unless you live in Scotland)? All the new stealth taxes being imposed all the time by councils ? The proposals to charge motorists more than a £1 per mile at peak times? The time 2 years ago when Brown sold off half our gold reserves then saw the price of gold nearly treble 3 weeks later, Blair in a vain attempt to win the hearts of the EU members giving back the billions Maggie Thatcher won for Britain against our unfair contribution to the EU? what about the gun crime that has prospered in big cities under New Labour? and the billions being squandered in this illegal war in afghanistan and Iraq?? how about our members of the Armed forces being maimed and killed in this Goverments name ? the list goes on and on..........I await my customary slaughter by the members who complain about my whinging about the millions of Muslims invading our country,!.....over to you Jim defish. See you fail to grasp who did the damage, yes nu lab ( bunch of control freaks and power mad lovies) are poor to say the least but look at your examples ie the dome set off and costed by the cons lab inherited it, honours for cash? come on give me a break the cons invented the term, council care homes nowt to do with constituency fund allocation was it, ie lowest poll tax and lady porter come to mind? mrsa ? nowt new came to light big time when the pinkies were privatised, and who did that ahh yes the cons? stealth taxes now then we would not need stealth taxes, had (yes you guessed it the cons)reduced top rate to 40% so the big boys could have a laugh at middle england yes ENGLAND who support this sodding Island now. thats it need a break me hed is urtin, see me spellin has gone to pot! we need grammar schools back now who got rid of them hmmn was it the cons? the theiving bunch of parasitic shirt lifting no goods! cheers KW Disagree and I am sure you will when labour spend ur pension. And it was said earlier on that maggie was closing down our mines and industry and buying coal from another country. Well thats because buying it in from another country ensured that we had power and heating. And the national minimum wage going up so the labour government can get more tax of you. Raise the fuel prices, council tax rises, stupid climate change taxes, importing gas from Russia then pick a fight with them, stick a loud of wind turbines up in Scotland and send all the power that they generate down to England. Give £50 million a day to Europe so Poland can have a new train station. And also what was the motto when they first came into power (Education, Education, Education) and we have dropped several places since. It Should be New Labour ( Higher taxes, Higher taxes, Higher taxes,). Tell me what has Labour done for the people that work hard to keep all those that aint got jobs. And maggie told a ship to go of course, ha look what labour does to the forces in Iraq and Afganistan under equipps them then a dozen of our finest troops die then they decide to put some armour on the soldiers and tanks. And they gonna send our troops out of Iraq and put them into Afganistan. Now my brother is in the army and I dont want to think about but if he gets Killed in action due to because he was under equipped Tony Bliar and Scum of the earth Mr Brown have got something to answer. And unemployment has gone down, I dont think so what labour does is send the unemployed to a training course for a couple of months then do a survey to say that unemployment has fallan. And why did Labour ban fox hunting I know why it was to take pressure of the war in Iraq. Labour has past so many acts since they came to power in 1997 I have lost count Happy new year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dinosaurs were the foreruners of man, dinosaurs are now extinct, you draw your own conclusions ! Only mistake we made was not supporting the miners ? If you cant get your point across-attack the police, thats bound to work, except it didnt. Why should loss making mines be a money pit swallowing tax payers money ? They were riding the gravy train until maggie derailed it, sympathy for miners ended when they knew they had been rumbled and resorted to violence. And please spare me the "generations down t coal face, it twer ard" its cliched and the pits are still shut. Arthur Scargill ? Worzel Gummidge. Play nicely now girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dinosaurs were the foreruners of man, dinosaurs are now extinct, you draw your own conclusions ! Only mistake we made was not supporting the miners ? If you cant get your point across-attack the police, thats bound to work, except it didnt. Why should loss making mines be a money pit swallowing tax payers money ?They were riding the gravy train until maggie derailed it, sympathy for miners ended when they knew they had been rumbled and resorted to violence. And please spare me the "generations down t coal face, it twer ard" its cliched and the pits are still shut. Arthur Scargill ? Worzel Gummidge. Play nicely now girls dinosaurs still exist, they are the ones who pine for that old sod thatcher, never mind you have the blair wannabe cameron, he's a lovie who will stand resolute for the country ( NOT) heaven above has he not spent time with a muslim family, so as he could "identify with them" should they not identify with US, as for the miners and pit closures, it was sod all to do with pits making a loss, or we would not have bought imported coal yes cheaper but hey was this not subsidised coal, susidised by other countries governments that would rather have people working than recieving benefit, ie paying taxes rather than contributing sod all, so we buy coal from abroad we pay people to sit on their **** and claim benefit rather than make contributions, but is that not the politics of a mad woman, no cant be she was the best thing since sliced bread, it was all about defeating a group of workers, and scargill in particular, strange thing is that the other oft pined for stalwart of british society churchill, also had a thing about the miners, he threw families out of tied accomodation (pit workers) he used the police to oversee his policies hmmn where did we see that one used again? and HIS words he refered to miners as RATS, as for "riding a gravy train" some of my mates who worked in the pits, dug coal whilst kneeling and in partialy flooded wet pits, far out under the north sea, some ferking gravy train that , so I will put that one down to ignorance at best or disrespectfull and spitefull at worst. cheers KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpitup Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Never voted, probably never will. Guy Fawkes rules!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taz24 Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Never voted, probably never will. Guy Fawkes rules!! Iv'e lost intrest in politics. I'm a bit cynical I suspose but in my opinion they are all as good and as bad as each other. I don't think that they deliberatly do things bad, they just react to circumstances and carry out knee jerk deceisions. How can 200 or 300 people make all the right deceisions that will effect over 60 million peoples lives. I'm no better, I offer no solutions. taz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-munsters Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 ""Half the coppers were SOLDIERS fact No1 "" absolute ******** where are the moderators? only one person on this thread is being abusive. it was quite funny to watch his rantings at first. but now he is going to far moderators PLEASE act! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-munsters Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 as no-one can be bothered moderating this guy, i am off i want no part of a forum where people who are obviously allowed to say what they like as long as they have x amount of posts by their name this hatstand would certainly not be allowed any where near a gun if the FLO knew of his paranoia, hate of the state and conspiracy theories what a great example to all anti-gun campaigners out there. and we wonder why the sport is screwed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagsy Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Manc, that's a shame but if you feel that way. Like them or not we're all entitled to opinions and a freedom of expression (just!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 So were there only two policemen on duty then ? If you know half the coppers were soldiers but only one who was that makes a grand total of two policemen. But lets gloss over the murder of a taxi driver shall we ? And how awful it was to see policemen doing there jobs. Miners were quick to put nails through spuds to make missiles against police horses, they were hardly marching up to police lines cuddling teddy bears however irate you become. Farmers are always being told to diversify, do you still beleive in a job for life which is what the miners wanted ? Funny that they werent forced to work below ground, they chose to. Any animal that does not adapt becomes extinct = miners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 This topic has veered away from the original subject and I don't think it will get back on course, nor do I think the issues mentioned in the past two pages will be resolved by continued posting. I've therefore taken the decision to close this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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