When describing a shotgun referring to it a tight means what exactly ?

[jayward]

When describing a shotgun referring to it as " tight" means what exactly

and this is not a ref to chokes i know what a tight choke is lol

i often see this and am ignorant to what it actually means , by this i mean whats actually tight ?

is this referring to when the gun is shut ? or is it a reference to when you open the gun and it drops open .

where would there be moment in a worn gun ?

thanks

:unsure:

[pin]

My understanding of "tight" means the facing of the chamber to action is excellent, i.e the gun is relatively "as new".

 

As guns become older, some more than others, the repeated recoil and opening and closing take their toll and the facing of the block does not form a tight seal with the rear of the action which leads to numerous problems.

 

A gunsmith will probably be along in a second to tell me I am wrong, but I understand the job to put this right is called re-jointing?

[Paul223]

My understanding of "tight" means the facing of the chamber to action is excellent, i.e the gun is relatively "as new".

 

As guns become older, some more than others, the repeated recoil and opening and closing take their toll and the facing of the block does not form a tight seal with the rear of the action which leads to numerous problems.

 

A gunsmith will probably be along in a second to tell me I am wrong, but I understand the job to put this right is called re-jointing?

Sounds good to me, that's what I would call tight, fore end in one hand stock in the other and apply pressure side to side, tight= no movement, loose =movement.

Edited January 14, 2008 by Paul223

[jayward]

So if you cant close the gun with a cigarette paper between the chambers and the action And close the gun its tight !! and if theres any side to side movement opposing the way it should to open ie side to side then thats not tight not good right ??

What should a good gun open like after its been fired one with ejectors !!!

Reason is ask is i have to give mine a little swing not a lot just touch So that it will open fully and eject the spent shells into my hand ...

[fortune]

A gun is a finely machined and adjusted piece of machinery that is made to fine tolerances just like a new engine. As time goes by, moving and impact surfaces wear slightly or get eroded by corrosion. As others have stated there should not be any noticeable slop in the jointing between the barrels and action and when the gun is shut there should be a nice solid klonk. If on the other hand there is excessive resistance to opening the gun IE you have to put it round your knee t o get it open this is not good either. There could be a build up of dirt, grease, powder residue or bits of leaf and twig jammed in the action that has caused a tightening of the tolerances. It might just need a good cleaning and a bit of oil in the right places.

[pin]

So if you cant close the gun with a cigarette paper between the chambers and the action And close the gun its tight !! and if theres any side to side movement opposing the way it should to open ie side to side then thats not tight not good right ??

What should a good gun open like after its been fired one with ejectors !!!

Reason is ask is i have to give mine a little swing not a lot just touch So that it will open fully and eject the spent shells into my hand ...

 

Is it relatively new? If so it will take time to loosen up a bit. Don't be tempted to get crazy with the lubricant either, most are like dirt magnets and once you have dirt mixed with oil you have an abrasive paste which will prematurely wear the gun.

 

A very light oiling with a good mineral oil, I mean a drop then almost totally wiped off, as long as you keep cleaning and doing it is all that is needed. Some use a gun grease but just make sure you use it incredibly sparingly and wipe off all excess.

[myuserid]

As said above it means stiff when opening up, unlike mine which is ridiculously tight, can just about open the damn thing. You have to crack it over your knee to open it :unsure: closing it gets a bit dangerous

[Cranfield]

My understanding of "tight" means the facing of the chamber to action is excellent, i.e the gun is relatively "as new".

 

As guns become older, some more than others, the repeated recoil and opening and closing take their toll and the facing of the block does not form a tight seal with the rear of the action which leads to numerous problems.

 

A gunsmith will probably be along in a second to tell me I am wrong, but I understand the job to put this right is called re-jointing?

Sounds good to me, that's what I would call tight, fore end in one hand stock in the other and apply pressure side to side, tight= no movement, loose =movement.

 

These are the definitions I would agree with.

[AdamC]

My new gun is still pretty tight. Has had about 250 cartridges through it and has lossened a bit, but still requires a little force to break it. It is just the last little bit now that needs a nudge, but looking forwarded to when it doesn't as I can feel it in my wrist after use.

[Floating Chamber]

I once handled an O/U Fabarm gun that had been sent to the Proof House (via retailer/supplier) because it had gone 'tight' (stiff to open). Turns out the chambers had bulged enough to impede opening and closing.

 

Have your gun checked by a gunsmith.

Edited January 14, 2008 by Floating Chamber

[ferrodo]

You will find with some ejector guns typically side by side ejectors, when you have fired both barrels then you have to open the gun against the force of the ejector springs. This makes the gun feel tight. It isn't and is quite normal. Try it with snap caps. Fire one barrel first then open. Note how much force you need then try it by firing both barrels. My AYA No2 is like this. Opens very easly without any barrles fired but quite hard when both have been fired. It is a result of the design of the action and common in many "best" guns as well as cheaper versions.

regards

F

[jayward]

thanks for the replies tbh theres nothing wrong with my gun i was merely interested it what was meant by this tight

i had assumed it did mean it closed tightly , and theres no side to side movement opposing where its should hinge

i see it a lot and have handled quite a few guns all of which have different characteristics with regards to how they open

Some fall open and swing about but close tightly , some need a little swing nothing forcefully just a little help after there fired down to the ejectors as IF there unfired they open just fine

ive seen guns that snap shut requiring a little force and some that you could swing shut ..

i was just wondering whats ok and whats not ...

 

so am i right to assume if a gun shuts well and opens relatively easily its in good order ?

Edited January 14, 2008 by jayward

[AdamC]

thanks for the replies tbh theres nothing wrong with my gun i was merely interested it what was meant by this tight

i had assumed it did mean it closed tightly , and theres no side to side movement opposing where its should hinge

i see it a lot and have handled quite a few guns all of which have different characteristics with regards to how they open

Some fall open and swing about but close tightly , some need a little swing nothing forcefully just a little help after there fired down to the ejectors as IF there unfired they open just fine

ive seen guns that snap shut requiring a little force and some that you could swing shut ..

i was just wondering whats ok and whats not ...

 

so am i right to assume if a gun shuts well and opens relatively easily its in good order ?

I would say so. So long as it goes bang when you pull the trigger and it shoots relativey straight!

[the last engineer]

so am i right to assume if a gun shuts well and opens relatively easily its in good order ?

 

if you have any dout as to your guns "safety" have it looked at by a competant smith.

 

as you posted earlier you need to" swing it a little", imo not a good habit to get into, the more times you bottom out the opened gun the more it will stretch or falt spot the pins, constant banging of guns is detrimental to the longevity of its life, i shudder every time i see someone slam there gun shut with the old tale of "its made to do that" boollllooooxxx it aint, your gun is a finely tuned and fitted pc of equipment and should be used and respected that way, close the gun gently just as you'd open it, it will last you a lifetime, abuse and disrespect it and one day you find yourself on a station with two parts in your hand wondering what the **** happened there, by the way i think you have two minutes to resolve a gun malfunction in a competition,,,,,,,, you wont make it :blink:

 

 

Martin