tosspot Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 What with the price of wheat/barley going through the roof we certainly have not got much set aside this year down this way, just wondering what the knock on effects will be, have been fortunate to see four or five Barn Owls working the Estate i'm involved in, but their food supply may be a bit harder to come by this year with virtually everything turned over to cereal. Hares, Lapwings and Partridge could well be hit too. Sad really as i think it has been a huge bonus over the years to have these large areas go to seed undisturbed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 We are still seeing a reasonable bit of set aside, although it tends to be on the bits that are awkward to cultivate, or are odd shapes, etc. What is increasing, are the 5 metre (or more) headlands being left round fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattymole Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Hi , I know what you mean , but the farmers will cash in on this !! but on the flip side of the coin prices will rise ! there is already a £100 rise on a ton of Pheasant pellets /rearers / crumbs , Pig farmers are moaning about the price of Barley so the cost of Bacon will rise , they reckon by June a loaf of bread will cost £2 and a pint of beer will be £4 , and do not even get me started on the price of Diesel , even chicken farmers are moaning about the cost of wheat , eggs in ASDA before xmas were 99p/15 eggs , now £1.25 !!!! no recession ? yeah right , the sooner we get this shower of ****e out the better! any way rant over ! I,m off to have my Sunday roast ( pork / stuffing/ plus spuds and trimmings ) whilst I still can afford it, just before I go ask your self have your wages gone up in line with inflation !! I doubt it ? Rattymole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 not sure but i think setaside has now been scrapped by the government last autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosspot Posted April 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 that would explain a lot, do they call it something else now? as Cranfield says the headland bits do seem rather popular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flash Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 the rising price in wheat may not be the reason for the increased size of headland. the government willa ctually pay farm owners to leave margins on the side of the fields un used. to act as habitats for animals not found in the crops. this is becoming more and more popular. u can also plant it with wildflower seeds, which u get even more money for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Hi , I know what you mean , but the farmers will cash in on this !! but on the flip side of the coin prices will rise ! there is already a £100 rise on a ton of Pheasant pellets /rearers / crumbs , Pig farmers are moaning about the price of Barley so the cost of Bacon will rise , they reckon by June a loaf of bread will cost £2 and a pint of beer will be £4 , and do not even get me started on the price of Diesel , even chicken farmers are moaning about the cost of wheat , eggs in ASDA before xmas were 99p/15 eggs , now £1.25 !!!! no recession ? yeah right , the sooner we get this shower of ****e out the better! any way rant over ! I,m off to have my Sunday roast ( pork / stuffing/ plus spuds and trimmings ) whilst I still can afford it, just before I go ask your self have your wages gone up in line with inflation !! I doubt it ? Rattymole According to this corrupt government inflation is "only 2.5%" :( :( :( try more like 10-12% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Hi , I know what you mean , but the farmers will cash in on this !! but on the flip side of the coin prices will rise ! there is already a £100 rise on a ton of Pheasant pellets /rearers / crumbs , Pig farmers are moaning about the price of Barley so the cost of Bacon will rise , they reckon by June a loaf of bread will cost £2 and a pint of beer will be £4 , and do not even get me started on the price of Diesel , even chicken farmers are moaning about the cost of wheat , eggs in ASDA before xmas were 99p/15 eggs , now £1.25 !!!! no recession ? yeah right , the sooner we get this shower of ****e out the better! any way rant over ! I,m off to have my Sunday roast ( pork / stuffing/ plus spuds and trimmings ) whilst I still can afford it, just before I go ask your self have your wages gone up in line with inflation !! I doubt it ? Rattymole Not sure that farmers would agree with this, I was talking to one this morning, he tells me that with the increases in fertiliser costs, it is going to cost £80 an acre to apply fertiliser to wheat this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 (edited) All the farms that i normally rely on for pigeon shooting over rape have planted cereals this year. What a difference a year makes; last year they were saying its the new earner to make biodiesel. This year none. I can sit on downland on one of my shoots and see big blocks of rape normally, over numerous farms. Nothing. A friend who farms dairy said theres no set aside, or fields just left fallow. Hes got something growing in all fields not put down to pasture or silage. Theres a fair bit of headland around the fields though. Edited April 14, 2008 by chunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 they can be related to countryside stewardship schemes, one of the better ideas, with the only problem being joe public thinking they're footpaths or round us bridle ways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickshot Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 not sure but i think setaside has now been scrapped by the government last autumn Farmers are getting paid to grow extra where there would usually be set-a-side QS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Not sure that farmers would agree with this, I was talking to one this morning, he tells me that with the increases in fertiliser costs, it is going to cost £80 an acre to apply fertiliser to wheat this year. Tell you something Bob, I don't farm crops, but I do use fertiliser. 50kg bag of 0-7-30 or 18-6-12 last year was around 13-15 Euro a bag say, this year, 23-23.50 Euro for the same bag Ouch, Ouch, Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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