shooting in a barrel

[p-a-s]

hi all as the topic realy i am due to pick up a new 17hmr american next week and seen somewhere about shooting in the barrel tried doing a search but so far to no avail if any one can point me in the right direction or advise me it would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance paul ps if any other members are looking for a 17 hmr american around the staffs area i think i might have found the cheapest in the country l/h 16" £296 i will only send the info via pm as i dont want to cause any grief for any one

[Quickshot]

Not Being A Rifle Man, Im Not Totally Sure. But, I Think It Is Something To Do With Firing Alot Of Shots Through The Barrel And Not Clean It, Leaving A Thin Layer Of Grease And Other Thigns To Make The Friction Less?

 

QS

[v-max]

Not Being A Rifle Man, Im Not Totally Sure. But, I Think It Is Something To Do With Firing Alot Of Shots Through The Barrel And Not Clean It, Leaving A Thin Layer Of Grease And Other Thigns To Make The Friction Less?

 

QS

All wrong advice & a grease layer would cause pressure & boom hand off or some thing. go onto barrel or custom rifle sites as they have info on running in a barrel try border-barrels etc.

[p-a-s]

vmax thank you very much it could be the link i am after but keep the lnput,tips ,advice coming please members paul

[Blackbart]

You dont need to shoot in a 17hmr ! Infact some people diagree on shooting any barrel in.My 17hmr gets a boresnake draged through it every now and again and thats it

[kip270]

You dont need to shoot in a 17hmr ! Infact some people diagree on shooting any barrel in.My 17hmr gets a boresnake draged through it every now and again and thats it

 

Same here, i do use a rod but only sometimes

[bob300w]

Not Being A Rifle Man, Im Not Totally Sure. But, I Think It Is Something To Do With Firing Alot Of Shots Through The Barrel And Not Clean It, Leaving A Thin Layer Of Grease And Other Thigns To Make The Friction Less?

 

QS

I can only put that down to the fact that you are from Suffolk. Totally the opposite of what should be done, and dangerous also.

Whether shooting in a barrel achieves anything in the accuracy stakes has been debated for many years and still no firm conclusions that it achieves anything. A friend and I both bought new 243's a few years back, he took a week to shoot his in, I took mine out of the box and used it. That was three or four years back, to date, they have never shot any differently, a source of great amusement to myself, and him swearing never to bother again.

If you want to go this route, using much time and ammunition to achieve nowt, here you are;

http://www.snipercountry.com/HotTips/Breakin.htm

 

As you will see, everybody and anybody had his own idea on how it should be done.

[p-a-s]

thanks for all your replies lads some interesting points made but omg dosent it seem so contrary paul

[bob300w]

thanks for all your replies lads some interesting points made but omg dosent it seem so contrary paul

Yep, it's a very controversial subject, and no proof on either side!

[Baldrick]

I wouldn't bother shooting in an HMR barrel. I boresnake mine about every 500 shots, if it is absolutely necessary. Deep-cleaning it with a rod takes about 30 shots to get it back to the original POI. Expensive and time-consuming.

 

I agree with Bob about running in a factory barrel. I didn't bother with any of my rifles, and they all shoot perfectly well.

[casts_by_fly]

The HMR's that I've seen and shot seem to get more accurate with more rounds down the tube. I wouldn't call it a break in in the truest sense because they don't get cleaned, but I suspect that there is some minor roughing in the barrels that is being smoothed down a little. My savage was like that, my BIL's savage was the same, and a few others as well. Haven't heard anything about CZ's. For my gun it only shot the 20 gr PSP's when the gentleman sold it to me. It took 4-5 boxes before it was shooting tight groups. I started on 20 gr's and moved down to 17's. The more I shoot it the more accurate it gets.

 

 

Take that for what its worth. If it were me, I'd just start shooting it and see how it does. Don't worry about problems until you have problems.

 

Thanks

Rick

[tulkyuk]

Like others have said - with a 17MHR you need only use a boresnake, which will only be required when accuracy falls off - as all rifles are different, you will be the only one who knows when it needs cleaning. an example is my self and a friend bought 17hmr's at the same time, his needed to be cleaned after about every 20 rounds and mine was ok to about 50 or so.

 

baldrick has said he cleans his after every 500 rounds, i think 500 rounds is a little extreme to be honest.

as for shooting in a rifle, its as bob says - some swear by it and some dont - mcmillan rifles ( very will known after market stock and rifle maker in the US), says its a complete waste of your potential barrel life, yet Border Barrels ( Well known Uk after market barrel maker), says it a must.

i can tell you the correct procedure for 'shooting in' a barrel, but its more for centre fire rifles than rimfire to be honest.

[Baldrick]

It might sound extreme (and complacent), Tulky, but my HMR seems to shoot perfectly well with that cleaning interval.

[p-a-s]

thanks each and all for taking the time out to post on my topic not yet sure on which way to go several conflicting reports. i just want the gun to shoot to the best of its ability (and mine)but it does make you wonder who out of the proffessionals is right tho, or is it just another ploy to squeeze a few more £ out of joe public. actually thinking about it i reckon most people who buy a new rifle as soon as it is zeroed just get straight out on the field thanks again all paul

[jamie g]

thanks each and all for taking the time out to post on my topic not yet sure on which way to go several conflicting reports. i just want the gun to shoot to the best of its ability (and mine)but it does make you wonder who out of the proffessionals is right tho, or is it just another ploy to squeeze a few more £ out of joe public. actually thinking about it i reckon most people who buy a new rifle as soon as it is zeroed just get straight out on the field thanks again all paul

 

 

i would just put 20 shots down it then boresnake it then carry on with your shooting. as soon as the accuracy go's off then boresnake it again. if that works have you heard of the saying dont fix what isnt broken

 

if you feel the need to rod it and use some copper remover then use some butchers bore shine on a patch leave it for 1/2 hour then rod it out with clean patchs. if the patches are blue then you still have some copper in there so just repeat over again.

 

i think this shoot one clean one is rubbish in centrefires and i have read and heard off other people that it i will only wear your barrel out quicker ! all that cleaning when it isnt needed ! after all how would you get loads of copper in a barrel when you have only put a couple of shots down it ?

 

these firms no its more money for them if the barrel wears out quick.

 

in my winchester 22/250 booklet it says ever 50 rounds and i will go by that after all there the maker of my rifle and winchester have been around a long time so no a thing or to. i still boresnake it after each time i have been out

 

hope that helps you out and good look with the hmr not that you will need it. all hmr's are accurate it would be hard to burn a barrel out on one of them by shooting. just make sure your carefull when pulling the boresnake though and keep it stright as you dont want to damage the crown of the rifle plus if you use a rod get a boreguide its so much more easy

[Dave-G]

So... All the time I stood in a barrel to shoot was wasted then? It took me AGES to shift that bloody *** thing everywhere I went