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You do know that Kerry has a 20 year record in the Senate as a supporter of gun-grabbing and gun-control measures all you Kerry clickers?

 

A couple of photo-ops do not make a firearms ownership supporter out of a gun grabber.

glad to see someone picked up on that point mark, glad bush got back in ,kerrys the one who wants to close the border here ,dont think hes much into the nafta thing, roll em up G.W. :thumbs: :)

 

MARTIN

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BUSH!!..

cause from what ive heard if Kerry is voted guns will be banned.

Aled

Aled is a constitutional right to bear arms. That would mean changing the constitution, which I imagine would be hard.

Ah Red my young naive friend!

The constitution says that the right to.... shall not be infringed.

There are many thousands of laws which restrict the US citizen's RKBA, all Kerry would have needed to do is to fill the Supreme Court with gun-unfriendly justices (there are three vacancies coming up) and the 2nd amendment would be re-interpreted to mean that the government can have guns but the people cannot. There is already such a ruling, that would just need a wee bit of strengthening.

There is also a wee thing in the constitution which protects free speech and yet organizations such as the NRA are unable to comment in the media in the run up to an election regarding the candidates.

 

There is a clause in our own Bill of Rights which enshrines our own common law right to arms suitable for our defence, our government felt free to ignore it - no reason why the US shouldn't come to the same conclusion in the end.

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To be fair , now that Bush is in , gun laws can be changed over here . It wont matter a jot once Bush deceideds to attack Iran . As were all going to be dead .

 

all the best yis yp :lol:

clarify that point, on gun laws changing in the uk, please yp ,i cannot see the connection there,and when is he supposed to invade/attack iran ??

 

if you allow that puppet of a primate minister to come into power again ,then he'll follow bush no matter what (no strings attached ) :thumbs:

 

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Aled, who cares if Kerry bans guns. Thats in America, not here. I reckon Kerry should have one, bush is a *****.

lot of people who care over here son,that soppy plank kerry will have the border shut down as soon as poss if he got in,,,,free trade agreement, my aunt nelly.

still waiting for you to clarify YP :thumbs:

 

martin

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Aled, who cares if Kerry bans guns. Thats in America, not here. I reckon Kerry should have one, bush is a *****.

I've posting regarding this in so many forums I can't remember what I've said where, so if I'm repeating myself...

well I don't care :thumbs:

 

If Kerry had won, he wouldn't just have facilitated domestic gun grabbing. By sending a pro-gun control representative to the UN the whole world would be facing increasingly restrictive gun ownership rights which would not be possible with a Bush representative at the table.

 

IANSA would think all their Christmasses had come at once and mad witch Gill Marshall-Andrews would be doing a naked happy dance around the fire if there were a Kerry government.

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Bush is a war munger . When he decides to go into Iran to sort them folks out there , he's going to get us all killed .

War on terror , my **** !

TLE have a listen to kinky sex makes the world go round - by the dead kennedys . Just incase you can't the lyrics are posted below .

 

DEAD KENNEDYS LYRICS

 

"Kinky Sex Makes The World Go 'Round"

 

Greetings:This is the Secretary of War at the State Department

of the United States

We have a problem.

The companies want something done about this sluggish

world economic situation

Profits have been running a little thin lately

and we need to stimulate some growth

Now we know

there's an alarmingly high number of young people roaming

around in your country with nothing to do but stir up trouble

for the police and damage private property.

It doesn't look like they'll ever get a job

It's about time we did something constructive with these people

We've got thousands of 'em here too. They're crawling all over

The companies think it's time we all sit down, have a serious get-together-

And start another war

The President?

He loves the idea! All those missiles streaming overhead to and fro

Napalm

People running down the road, skin on fire

The Soviets seem up for it:

The Kremlin's been itching for the real thing for years.

Hell, Afghanistan's no fun

So whadya say?

We don't even have to win this war.

We just want to cut down on some of this excess population

Now look. Just start up a draft; draft as many of those people as you can.

We'll call up every last youngster we can get our hands on,

hand 'em some speed, give 'em an hour or two to learn how to use

an automatic rifle and send 'em on their way

Libya? El Salvador? How 'bout Northern Ireland?

Or a "moderately repressive regime" in South America?

We'll just cook up a good Soviet threat story

in the Middle East-we need that oil

We had Libya all ready to go and Colonel Khadafy's hit squad

didn't even show up. I tell ya

That man is unreliable.

The Kremlin had their fingers on the button just like we did for that one

Now just think for a minute-We can make this war so big-so BIG

The more people we kill in this war, the more the economy will prosper

We can get rid of practically everybody on your dole queue if we plan this right.

Take every loafer on welfare right off our computer rolls

Now don't worry about demonstrations-just pump up your drug supply.

So many people have hooked themselves on heroin

and amphetamines since we took over, it's just like Vietnam.

We had everybody so busy with LSD they never got too strong.

Kept the war functioning just fine

It's easy.

We've got our college kids so interested in beer

they don't even care if we start manufacturing germ bombs again.

Put a nuclear stockpile in their back yard,

they wouldn't even know what it looked like

So how 'bout it? Look-War is money.

The arms manufacturers tell me unless

we get our bomb factories up to full production

the whole economy is going to collapse

The Soviets are in the same boat.

We all agree the time has come for the big one, so whadya say?!?

That's excellent. We knew you'd agree

The companies will be very pleased.

 

Taken from an album that was released in 1987 . But rings true today .

 

Anyways TLE , i thought folks in Canada thought of Americans , as the drunk who lives next door . Ok to wave at if they are in their own yard , but a nightmare if they step into your yard :lol:

 

all the best yis yp :thumbs:

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