Harnser Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 The last hangings in Britain took place - Peter Allen at walton prison Liverpool, and John Wilby at strangeways Manchester . Was this the start of the slow decline into the almost lawless society of today . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 A sad loss of an important service!! Would save us a fortune putting murderers down rather than paying for their keep for 8 years before we let them out to kill again!! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 The last hangings in Britain took place - Peter Allen at walton prison Liverpool, and John Wilby at strangeways Manchester . Was this the start of the slow decline into the almost lawless society of today . Harnser . straight answer no ? the death penalty never detered at all. now as for our present state of society, blame that on liberalisation,multiculturism, and the inbreeding of scum on scum. cheers KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbithunter2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Could do with bringing it back. That way there would be more room in the prisons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russuk Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 The last hangings in Britain took place - Peter Allen at walton prison Liverpool, and John Wilby at strangeways Manchester . Was this the start of the slow decline into the almost lawless society of today . Harnser . The fact that these hangings took place show that there were crimes being commited that required them, so no. Could do with bringing it back.That way there would be more room in the prisons. Surely the effect would be minimal as the total number hanged each year hasn't exceeded 20 since 1934. http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/hanged2.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Dunno, in the red corner we have the likes of Sally Clark, Colin Stagg, Barry George etc etc However, in the blue corner we have Hindley & Bradey, Sutcliffe, the Wests etc etc Then again, Sutcliffe is supposed to be a nutter (along with most of the inhabitants of Broadmoor) and a developed society is supposed to show compassion towards those who do not have the required mens rea to establish what they are doing is wrong i.e. we shouldn't be offing dangerous mentalists even though they will never see the light of day. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden22 Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 The fact that crimes took place at al is not a convincing argument against the deterrent effects of capital punishment. It is the number of crimes that is important, something that should be fairly obvious . I don't think that anyone ha ever claimed it deters all murders. When determining the deterrent effect by measuring murder rates pre and post abolition, it is important to separate those that could be deterred from those that couldn't. Certain crimes of passion, those comitted by "nutters" (tut tut, very bad Mung, off to a diversity awareness course with you), and those comitted by Russian agents are all examples of murders that will never be detered by anything, and so should be removed from the calculation. In answer to Harnser, it was in my opinion a fairly small factor in the decline you mention. The "liberalisation and multiculturalism" mentioned by kdubya would be far more important factors to my mind. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted August 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 If capital punishment is not a deterrent ,how about it being restitution for taking a life . Or do you think that restitution is a dirty word . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Would Barry George have been hung back in the 60's? FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 If capital punishment is not a deterrent ,how about it being restitution for taking a life . Or do you think that restitution is a dirty word . Harnser . An eye for an eye, and a tooth......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted August 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Would Barry George have been hung back in the 60's? FM Al most certinly . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Did they hang them quite quickly or was it like in America where they seem to be imprissoned for a long time before the death penalty was given ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darebear Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 i don't care if the death penalty is a deterrent or not. it'd be a hell of a lot cheaper than holding certain wastes of space in prisons and psych. hospitals. they're just a drain on resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Instead of a quick death yeah, make them pay for what they done in a way like this. Send them in a fenced of quarry give them sledge hammers tell them to make some gravel and if they attack each other its alright as that what they deserve. I would rather make them suffer a long and painful death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Instead of a quick death yeah, make them pay for what they done in a way like this. Send them in a fenced of quarry give them sledge hammers tell them to make some gravel and if they attack each other its alright as that what they deserve. I would rather make them suffer a long and painful death. Just sometimes dusty, you worry me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 i don't care if the death penalty is a deterrent or not. it'd be a hell of a lot cheaper than holding certain wastes of space in prisons and psych. hospitals. they're just a drain on resources. Kill them all, hang'em high, signed; Cutey Fluffy Bunnikins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted August 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Did they hang them quite quickly or was it like in America where they seem to be imprissoned for a long time before the death penalty was given ? Spaniel , There was no hanging about ( forgive the pun ) the sentence was carried out with in 3 weeks of conviction and that included time for an appeal against sentence and conviction . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 should of been out of the dock onto the rope. if they got it wrong give them a royal pardon seem'd to please people ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussman Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Instead of a quick death yeah, make them pay for what they done in a way like this. Send them in a fenced of quarry give them sledge hammers tell them to make some gravel and if they attack each other its alright as that what they deserve. I would rather make them suffer a long and painful death. Why? That would bring us to same level as these people. If it were to be done, better to do it quickly and humanely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden22 Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 (edited) . Edited March 9, 2009 by Maiden22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 should of been out of the dock onto the rope. if they got it wrong give them a royal pardon seem'd to please people ? ROFLMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbithunter2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 I've got the answer Just have women on the jury, they never wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darebear Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 i don't care if the death penalty is a deterrent or not. it'd be a hell of a lot cheaper than holding certain wastes of space in prisons and psych. hospitals. they're just a drain on resources. Kill them all, hang'em high, signed; Cutey Fluffy Bunnikins. mhmm. so maybe you now get the rip-taking sense of humour of the sod who hi-jacked my profile :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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