Firearms Licence

[Dave-G]

that ant far if you lose yours we can all laugh at you and offer no help then hay that ok???:yp:?

 

Background checks are made for a very good reason FM. If FEO's were as naive as that, all shooting in the UK would probably have been banned by now through lack of control.

[GJUK]

that ant far if you lose yours we can all laugh at you and offer no help then hay that ok?

 

"That isn’t fair, if you lose yours, could we all laugh at you then and refuse to offer you any help, would that be okay?"

 

^ Is that what you're trying to say? I mean that took me 3 or 4 minutes to decode that... :look:

 

 

I'm hardly being out of order I think by saying what I've said. My point of view is my own, as a complete new member and a member of the public.

 

 

Well for a start I don't have a licence but when I apply for one, yes obviously I would be understandably gutted if I was refused. But then I have never done any of the following:

 

handling stolen property

going equiped to steel

firearms ( air pistol in a public place)

Theft

riding a goped with no licence and no insurance.

 

I know lots of people who have had 'rough' child hoods and mixed in with the wrong crowds but at the end of the day, as a member of the public, I would not be happy if 'Joe Bloggs' with that kind of a recent record was given a weapon. That’s nothing against the OP, he might be the nicest guy in the world but with that list of convictions I'm not the kind of person who's going to throw him my car keys any time soon.

[Baldrick]

I've always felt privileged to hold my FAC and my SGC. Because I have these tickets, I watch my step, so to speak. Each police force interprets the law and the relevant guidelines differently. As MC says, you have nothing to lose by applying.

 

However if I was the FEO I would shred your application without discussion. If you came back in 5 years, having spent that time constructively and with the 'right' crowd, I might give you the benefit of the doubt.

[Lloyd90]

It does seem a bit harsh but being trusted with firearms that could EASILY kill people is a PRIVILIDGE(Hope I spelt that right). I know in America its there right to "bear arms" but here its alot more controlled!

 

Now I wont say I am a perfect person, I have been in a bit of trouble, I had had the odd street fight, (2 Idiots tried to jump me whilst drunk, Thats a different story though)

 

Although all this whenever someone has done something you know is ILLEGAL (Drugs, stealing , gun related offences ) I would just walk away!

 

Everyone knows the difference between wrong and wright, and everyone has the choice to say "Im not doing this!"

I really hope the OP has changed for the better but ATM he needs to SHOW that, and I think thats why he would be denied on his application.

 

It wont hurt to apply mate but you might want to show that you have changed, and that might take some time. Keep your nose clean!

[IAN88]

i lived at a house for 18mts and this house had a history of police activity and the FEO asked for some time was i there at the said time of the activity it was my ex misses bloke he had a colourful life (****) finally convinced him it was not me after we cross ref dates and info so i,d say no mate

[njc110381]

Best wait five years I think! You've got no hope IMO, but in time you should be ok

[Turbo16]

I was looking for answers on this subject when I found this thread. I've got essentially the same question as the OP: I received two bans for dangerous driving, a caution for carrying a lock knife and another caution for possession of cannabis, the most recent of which is 4 years and 9 months ago. I decided to wait til they were all spent (5 years) before applying for a FAC. Considering the number of convictions/cautions, what do you think, from experience, is the likelihood of me getting a license once these are all spent? I'm quite happy to explain why I received these if anyone thinks it might have a bearing on the decision.

 

Cheers,

 

Paul

[mossy835]

In my opinion mate with your history I think Osama Binladen would stand more chance of becoming mayor of New York than you been granted a firearm certificate to be honest.

 

 

:(

[MR.LAG]

Paul I think you maybe in the same boat as james here.

As many of the members on here say that drugs weapons and dangerous driving arent a good mix.

But by some absolute miracle you could just get aproved

[stevethevanman]

Hi there James, I have a history myself and I can tell you that if these were done last year you do not have a great chance of getting a certificate....thats just plain honesty, however the law says for certain things you are banned from applying for 5 years, for others for life...you must check firearms law. But it will be very difficult to explain away the equiped to steal conviction, although this was not a firearm, it to the police shows the will to use a weapon if need be and total disregard to the law, this is more than enough to refuse you....there have been occurences of people loosing certs over extreme driving.

 

I recommend if you want a good shot to speak to your firearms officer, he will tell you the criteria you need to forfill.

 

Steve

[Turbo16]

Hi Mr Lag,

 

The knife was just a pocket knife which I told the officer about when I was invited into the main part of the police station to give a statement about something not concerning me, I thought it would be wise to let him know I had it on me in case there were prisoners around. After he asked to have a look at it and he pointed out that a lock knife (even though it had a 2" blade) was illegal, I wished I'd kept my mouth shut. They even destroyed it.

 

With regard to the Cannabis, It was actually eleven cannabis plants which I was destroying on behalf of my then girlfriend's brother (there parents had objected when they discovered them in their loft). The house in which I was living was raided on another matter (no I did not keep good company at the time) and the officers involved believed my story as they saw I was most of the way through burning the plants when they arrived. However, they seemed less than happy about letting it go without putting another mark against their figures. At least i presume they believed me, I would have thought I'd have been up in court for cultivation otherwise.

 

With regards to the driving, I was a total *** jockey and have no defence. As I said though, these offences will all soon be spent and, whilst I understand they will still be taken into account, I hope the last five years of keeping my nose clean will go in my favour. If not I'm sure another 5 years wont hurt (I heard West Midlands police destroy records of offenders after 10 years period of inactivity, fingers crossed!)

 

Cheers for the responses, I guess I'll just have to give it a go. I have a friend who has just joined the specials (had an adverse history but knew the superintendant so that didnt matter lol), I'll ask her for some information regarding preclusions to the certificate.

 

Cheers again,

 

Paul

[markbivvy]

(I heard West Midlands police destroy records of offenders after 10 years period of inactivity, fingers crossed!)

 

as far as FAC goes they are there for life.

[stevethevanman]

I dont think they are acounted in the same light after 5 years, as this is supposed to be enough time for a person to deeply change, they are always there on paper but, they are as you say classed as spent. Because in theory you are not in the same mind frame, and hopefully more sensible after the time has expired.

 

I must admit I have done some stuff and waited 10 years, they told me "no, no, no...you only have to wait 5 years", to say the least I was happy, I think when they are spent you will stand a much better chance of getting one.

 

Steve