SA1Gunner Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Fellas, I am considering buy an Hatsan Escort Semi Auto shotgun, I am asking the question before it happens to me, then with the answer, I can relax a bit with an informative answer because I will hopefully know what to do, so What should anyone do if the Semi Auto jams. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 (edited) To be honest, the only time the gun is likely to jam is if you pull the bolt back with an unfired cartridge in the breech and it doesn't leave the breech (this is because you will have pulled the bolt back slowly) and the next cartridge pops into the breech, thus not allowing the bolt to close. I've done it a couple of times with my Hatsan Escort and it's resolved by pulling the bolt back and tugging at the jammed cartridge - nothing too hard/dangerous. My gun has has a few thousand through it and it's never jammed once whist feeding a new cartridge from the magazine. The only thing that has happened a few times is the hammer half cocking, which basically means the gun doesn't fire - I think this happens when i try to quietly close the bolt by hand, instead of allowing the noisy spring to do the job. Just be careful not to get your finger caught in the bolt when it shuts, or you'll easily break it! (Your finger that is!) Any further questions, please PM me Edited November 17, 2008 by harfordwmj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA1Gunner Posted November 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Fella, I really appreciate you taking the time to reply, it's exactly what I was looking for, guidance in a difficult circumstance. Cheers PS If I need any more info, I will pm you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy W Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 As already said, if you pull the bolt back slowly to remove an unfired cartridge with the ejection port vertical to the sky the cartridge wont eject out and the carrier can lock it in place then its a case of getting fat fingers in the opening and "firking" the cart out whilst pussing the carrier back down and holding the bolt handle, but if you do the same with the ejection port facing to the floor or at 45% to the floor you can catch it with the fingers of the same hand which you are holding the receiver with. Dry practice at home with a long snap cap (not short brass ones) or a spent cartridge and you will see exactly what I mean. Ocassionally on some guns a spent cart has been known to jam half in half out of the ejection port, pull and hold the breech bolt handle whilst removing the cart. If you drop a good cart on the floor wipe it clean before putting it in the gun or your pocket as a blade of grass or blob of mud could cause a jam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 If the gun jams : Safty Catch. leave the gun 10 seconds pointed in a safe direction : ie the floor. C0ck the working parts back ( most semi`s have a button to hold the moving parts to the rear) and hold them there. Look inside. remove the jamed cartridge, If no cartridge turn the gun over and unload any cartridges from the magazine. The gun is now safe to be inspected or striped ( but still allways treat a gun as loaded at al times) Now you must decided weather to load the gun again or pack up to strip the gun at home. If carrying on load your gun again as per normal ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Mine jammed on saturday for the second time (shock horror!),but it was my own fault.I never cleaned the two gas ports last time i stripped gun down.So after removing barrel (takes seconds) and a quick poke with a tiny twig-all was well and it cycled beautifully afterwards! Keep the ports clear and it should be alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 or .......... buy a Beretta and avoid most of the jamming problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Well unless what you're shooting at is likely to be shooting back just take your time and un-jam it slowly, keeping the barrel pointed away from anyone, safety on and mind your fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 or .......... buy a Beretta and avoid most of the jamming problems I don't believe the make will decide on its reliability. It's more to do with how the person looks after the gun - If you don't clean it at all, then it's bound to jam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy W Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 If you want reliability, get a Benelli. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 If you really want some fun try unjamming it when it is getting dark at night....just watch out for those fingers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA1Gunner Posted November 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Fella's, I am very grateful you all took the time to help me out. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 or .......... buy a Beretta and avoid most of the jamming problems If you want reliability, get a Benelli. If you want a gun that needs a couple of thousand rounds through it before it becomes reliable then get a benelli Alternatively try this option http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eKZTHQlAY9E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA1Gunner Posted November 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 chrispti lmao, that is brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfox Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 finger caught behind bolt snapping shut with speed=MASSIVE PAIN!!! happened to my freind from the city who has a beretta semi! ouchies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil smith Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 (edited) If you want reliability, get a Benelli. Someone needed to say it Jams come in many forms some are caused by the gun & others by the person using it, many auto's get a problem when the person loading the magazine fails to push the cartridge far enough into the magazine & past the shell stop, you can usually feel & hear a "click" as the shell passes the stop. When this happens the shell jumps back jams under the closed bolt & will certainly jam early remington 1100 & 870. Benelli's will still fire & cycle when this happens however, In fact some guys load one below the bolt on purpose in PSG guns to gain an extra round in the gun called the "Ghost load" the gun does need a minor alteration to allow you to do this. If I get a missfire I simply rack it out as quick as I can, its safer on the ground than in the gun, other jams are usually failure's to feed the shell into the chamber & they sit on the carrier (lifter) plate, simply pushing up on the carrier from below will usually complete the cycle or a jiggle with the cocking lever. Stovepipe jams are when the case has failed to eject fully, hold the bolt back & pull the empty case free. there are others but the more serious will require the gun to be stripped to free the problem. Keep um clean & oil um well. N Edited November 17, 2008 by neil smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 What's a jam? Browning B2000 unjammable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para90 Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 throw the shoty at the incoming .whilst diving to one side reaching for your concelled 9mili bereta ,upon emptying the mag reach for the clickers hiden nearby to activate the half a dozen claymores . reload the 9mm .if over run call in an airstrike on the hoof stating the bearing/lyline and the direction your runnning on and hope the yanks aren`t on lsd safety catch ,cock ,hook and ,look would be the sensible answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 throw the shoty at the incoming .whilst diving to one side reaching for your concelled 9mili bereta ,upon emptying the mag reach for the clickers hiden nearby to activate the half a dozen claymores .reload the 9mm .if over run call in an airstrike on the hoof stating the bearing/lyline and the direction your runnning on and hope the yanks aren`t on lsd safety catch ,cock ,hook and ,look would be the sensible answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 When in the field and your auto fails to load a round into the chamber from the magazine you can carry on shooting for the day by just loading a cartridge into the breach and none into the magazine . you will only have one shot ,but its surprising how fast you can drop another cartridge into the open breach and push the release button . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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