mudpatten Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 (edited) Cubix, Could you expand on certain elements of your argument. You rightly point out that "racism" is illegal and that police officers should not be permitted to serve if they harbour those views. How would you organise the screening of new recruits to detect this? In the same way that racism is illegal, so is homophobia. Yet both Islam and Christianity are vehemently opposed to it. I`m still trying to picture the sort of officer that your vetting system would put on the streets. As a retired police officer I ended up, after the first ten minutes in uniform, hating blacks, Asians, Catholics, white people, council tenants, chavs, homosexuals, transvestites, travellers, drunks, kiddy fiddlers and senior officers. In fact, pretty much all of society, except for the decent ones. Many of whom occupied one or more of the above categories. The real question is, did I ever let my prejudices affect my professional standards? The answer to that is a categoric NO. What goes on in my head is one of the last bastions of freedom and one that you seem intent on invading. What are your views on a Black Police Officers Association, whose membership is not open to white officers? Those of you who think that this forum is being monitored by the police are wrong. It is`nt. It is however, being monitored by MI5 or a similar branch of the Security Services. Nick. Edited November 21, 2008 by mudpatten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo57 Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Those of you who think that this forum is being monitored by the police are wrong. It is`nt. It is however, being monitored by MI5 or a similar branch of the Security Services. Nick. Sorry Mudpatten, it is you who are wrong. I can tell you for a fact that the Firearms Examiners of both Lothian and Borders Police and Strathclyde Police regularly trawl at least four shooting forums looking for "undesirable" gun owners on their patches. And they have ways, using IP addresses and access to IP time logs, of ascertaining the real identities of people who post under false names. I am not saying that this "Big Brother Society" is right - just that it is a fact. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I stand corrected. Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Sorry Mudpatten, it is you who are wrong. I can tell you for a fact that the Firearms Examiners of both Lothian and Borders Police and Strathclyde Police regularly trawl at least four shooting forums looking for "undesirable" gun owners on their patches. And they have ways, using IP addresses and access to IP time logs, of ascertaining the real identities of people who post under false names. I am not saying that this "Big Brother Society" is right - just that it is a fact. Jim So if my non FAC/SGC holding brother posts something daft on another shooting forum, I may get my SGC revoked. How can they prove that the cert holder was the one posting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 If they were monitoring this forum, which they aren't. But if they were half the members would have lost the tickets over the course of friday and saturday nights. Alcohol is a wonderful fuel for a virtual punch up. OOPPPSSS did I say punch up? I meant to say rational debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Labour were saying lots of people on the list were convicted criminals. That'll be a pack of lies, then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 And they have ways, using IP addresses and access to IP time logs, of ascertaining the real identities of people who post under false names. What about the one's that don't have static IP addy's?.....Anyway, anyone with half a brain can cover up there IP addy, if you were that way inclined..... So if my non FAC/SGC holding brother posts something daft on another shooting forum, I may get my SGC revoked. How can they prove that the cert holder was the one posting? Another point, I doubt they would waste Police time/resources on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 If they were monitoring this forum, which they aren't. But if they were half the members would have lost the tickets over the course of friday and saturday nights. Alcohol is a wonderful fuel for a virtual punch up. OOPPPSSS did I say punch up? I meant to say rational debate. MC, Do the BNP want to close kebab shops ? because if so I wouldnt vote for them. I was tipsy in charge of a loaded kebab last night. Should I fear a visit from the special forces ? Cheers LV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 MC, Do the BNP want to close kebab shops ? because if so I wouldnt vote for them. I was tipsy in charge of a loaded kebab last night. Should I fear a visit from the special forces ? Cheers LV They're practicing their commando rolls even as you speak. Be afraid Did you have Happy Ringburner Chilli Sauce on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuffy Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) i recently saw some plans for a couple of mosques . the basements of wich are to be made of realy thick reinforced concrete . these rooms are called " training rooms " . ? Edited November 22, 2008 by cuffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 i recently saw some plans for a couple of mosques . the basements of wich are to be made of realy thick reinforced concrete . these rooms are called " training rooms " . ? I think you'll find they are called the foundations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Its probably a thoughtful safety feature intended to contain the explosion should a suicide bombers vest detonate prematurely. Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbithunter2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Cubix, Could you expand on certain elements of your argument. You rightly point out that "racism" is illegal and that police officers should not be permitted to serve if they harbour those views. How would you organise the screening of new recruits to detect this? In the same way that racism is illegal, so is homophobia. Yet both Islam and Christianity are vehemently opposed to it. I`m still trying to picture the sort of officer that your vetting system would put on the streets. As a retired police officer I ended up, after the first ten minutes in uniform, hating blacks, Asians, Catholics, white people, council tenants, chavs, homosexuals, transvestites, travellers, drunks, kiddy fiddlers and senior officers. In fact, pretty much all of society, except for the decent ones. Many of whom occupied one or more of the above categories. The real question is, did I ever let my prejudices affect my professional standards? The answer to that is a categoric NO. What goes on in my head is one of the last bastions of freedom and one that you seem intent on invading. What are your views on a Black Police Officers Association, whose membership is not open to white officers? Those of you who think that this forum is being monitored by the police are wrong. It is`nt. It is however, being monitored by MI5 or a similar branch of the Security Services. Nick. Can i just the take the time to a big hello to MI5 or a similar branch of the Security Services and my local police. Thanks for wasting me hard earned tax on looking on the net for muppets Also how do i go about getting a job like yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo57 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) Can i just the take the time to a big hello to MI5 or a similar branch of the Security Services and my local police. Thanks for wasting me hard earned tax on looking on the net for muppets Also how do i go about getting a job like yours Like you, I don't like my tax being wasted. In fact I don't like paying it at all. But on the other hand I don't like the idea of muppets running about with guns, so maybe the police do have to keep their eyes and ears open. I think that Mudpattens is probably right about the MI5 connection. Given the history of violence in the BNP, they would be worried about political extremists having access to guns (although they could probably buy them on the black market anyway). Although, on second thoughts, that is maybe a Special Branch, rather than MI5, problem. Edited November 22, 2008 by Jimbo57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BUNUuqlG1a0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbithunter2008 Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Like you, I don't like my tax being wasted. In fact I don't like paying it at all. But on the other hand I don't like the idea of muppets running about with guns, so maybe the police do have to keep their eyes and ears open. I think that Mudpattens is probably right about the MI5 connection. Given the history of violence in the BNP, they would be worried about political extremists having access to guns (although they could probably buy them on the black market anyway). Although, on second thoughts, that is maybe a Special Branch, rather than MI5, problem. But it would take a brain dead donkey to post they have a black market gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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