Salop Matt Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 That white blond haird female was such silly mare, what right does she have to ram her opinions down the throat of meat eaters. If it was the other way around it would soon be called discrimination. Also that big fat lad who wore the black and white stripped jumper, what a hippocrit (sp) has spent years eating meat and battery duck then sits there and crys and sobs saying that he wont eat the duck and possibly not meat either again. Also am no wildfollower but with dogs around the retreive of the game should be done straight after before they continue shooting, I think this is pretty much the only thing that put shooters in a bad light. the black girl having ago with the gun was very awkward with the gun to say the least . I dont think tonights show on rabbit will fair so well after seeing the short clip of someone tying to neck a bunny. I guess they ferret rather than shoot. I think it would of done the sport better if it had been lamping with a 22rf and subs ! :blink: but will wait and see ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 900,000 mallard shot a year..............I shot three mallard and a wigeon tonite so that leaves a defecit of 897,000....... Calculator required :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver_pigeon Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Firstly, not that I agree with the topic area so much as I will only Clay Shoot and respect that people want to game shoot, but........ Whilst trying to avoid seeing this program on the telly while Salop Sniper was watching it last night :blink: I noticed the scene where the girl was shooting with the side by side and looked entirely uncomfortable, and my opinion was that she was un-safe! She was making a play for being scared and trying to get attention and although the guy there with her was obviously doing everything possible for safety!...she was daft! She also, and this is my second point...gave girl shooters a bad name as being like big jessys that go onto the field and be a damsel in distress! This, I have spent a great deal of time not being and really dislike the portrayal on national tv!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Calculator required 899,997 :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfletch Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I thought is was very good and I,m wondering if I,m related to the land owner Now that would be nice :blink: I agree about the black lass she was a danger with a gun in fact I would have thought more tuition was needed for all the possible shooters especially as they were shooting in bad light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reedbradshaw Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 get f'kin in ! what a lad...im sure we have all had that at one time or another ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk shooter Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Watched it and have to say not that surprised about the way the Beeb portrayed shooting :blink: Who the hell did the Programme researchers speak to in terms of thinking it was a good idea to let complete novice's out with a loaded gun (Supervised or otherwise) to shoot live quarry after an afternoon's clay pigeon shooting??? I'd love to see BASC's response to this one. Why did the Estate allow themselves to be filmed in such a poor light? Why did they allow the novices to use SbS's for the shooting, knowing that these generally being light in weight, kick like a mule on some 28g lead loads let alone some of the heavier non-toxic loads used for wildfowling?!?!? (Nothing wrong with SbS in the right hands I hasten to add) As starlight32 said, they needed some experienced shots in there to show how it should have been done properly!! 900000 wild duck a year shot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where the hell did they dream that one up then, especially on the basis that they stated that there are 130,000 breeding pairs in this country, so that means that a further 640,000 ducks are shot to reach that magical figure along with the other 1 million plus ducks that don't get shot arrive on these shores, not to mention those successfully reared broods from the resident breeding population. If that was the case then there are no problems with the duck migratory numbers, and shooting can continue. just one thing, where are all these duck then, because most wildfowlers will tell you each year that its getting harder due to the lack of right weather conditions etc. Whilst the Duck were wild, on the basis that they were flying, how can you be sure that they're not just "free range" reared birds released on the estate. And of course they're going to get some shooting on the basis that they were shooting over flight ponds that are regularly fed to ensure duck come in. I bet if they had to go and sit out on the foreshore, windswept, cold and muddy for days on end before they got close enough to actually have a shot let alone actually shoot one, they would see Duck shooting in a different light. How may people on here go wildfowling, and how many of those when you read their posts comment on the wonderful sounds and sights they see whilst out there, the peacefulness, the smells, the feeing of being alive and thats on top of the fact that they may never even get to fire a shot. I see nobody's mentioned the supposed "tradition" of blooding after the guys first kill. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but that only happens with Deer and why the hell would you want to show that on TV anyway. That is IMHO total idiocy from the estate. The picking up at the end, who here who wildfowls regularly or even game or pigeon shoots, can honestly say that they have retrieved every single bird that they have shot at and winged or even killed stone dead in the air successfully?!?!?! Anyone who say they have is either lying or not being shooting long. I've seen and shot birds and watched them come down, marked the position so that at the end of the drive or flight I or the other guns can go and retrieve them by hand or with Dog, and still there are times when you can't find them. There was a case last year on a flight pond, when four dogs couldn't find one duck after it had come down during the flight on a fairly barren field,a nd three people swore blind that they all saw it come down in the same spot!! That's real life unfortunately, and whilst not pleasant and no self respecting gun likes it, it does happen. At least they went back the next morning and found "them"?!?! That's the negatives now the positives........................... Well, Honestly was there any SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 900,000 mallard shot a year..... As a wildfowler I doubt that to the end of decree. They would have done far better to have more experienced shooters as I feel actual distance of the shooting was disputable from the camera...In other words they were shooting a lot closer than you think. They were extremely 'kack handed,, even as novice shooters I felt it protrayed the more experienced in the sport in a poor light. I shot three mallard and a wigeon tonite so that leaves a defecit of 897,000....... I would think that 900,000 mallard was an understatement. I know of a few shoots local to me that shoot 1000's in a season. I personally have shot 12 on my flight ponds, and that doesn't count the ones that other people have shot there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk shooter Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 899,997 :blink: So three mallard and a widgeon would be four birds and so the deficit would actually be 899,996 :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgerpig Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Doh just noticed this thread here, put one on general shooting about the prog I thought it was good, I did wonder if Arthur the keeper didnt nip out for a couple of fresh ones in the morning just to make sure the clipped bird was found :blink: I think the antis will find fault with anything they dont agree with, I also thought the beaneaters put human characteristics on the prey maybe this explains their over sensitive bonkersness The guy who ate meat but couldnt deal with where it came from was a crack up cant wait for tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 So three mallard and a widgeon would be four birds and so the deficit would actually be 899,996 :good: Quite right but a wigeon ain't a mallard :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk shooter Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I would think that 900,000 mallard was an understatement. I know of a few shoots local to me that shoot 1000's in a season. I personally have shot 12 on my flight ponds, and that doesn't count the ones that other people have shot there. But MC, these are not 100% wild birds, surely released birds with wild ones mixed in amongst? If we're including reared and released birds then well of course that 900,000 figure is easily eclipsed. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Where do you mean, The birds on my ponds are wild. But the 899,988 others could be reared. I din't see the program but it is perfectly feasible that that ammount are shot each year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 "I noticed the scene where the girl was shooting with the side by side and looked entirely uncomfortable, and my opinion was that she was un-safe! She was making a play for being scared and trying to get attention and although the guy there with her was obviously doing everything possible for safety!...she was daft! hmm1.gif She also, and this is my second point...gave girl shooters a bad name as being like big jessys that go onto the field and be a damsel in distress! This, I have spent a great deal of time not being yes.gif and really dislike the portrayal on national tv!!" What about the brunette pretty girl who was a cracking shot, even though she looked like the last person that would want to go duck hunting. I don't think the program wanted to make all girls seem "wimpish" or afraid to handle a gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyCM Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I bet a few rabbit guts tonight get some of these veggie's chucking up & I reckon if you want to shoot at the Estate book up soon as I would say the programmes gonna be great advertising for them. When's the Haggis Hunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazkb Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 while it's nice to see some shooting on Tv i'm not sure how to take this program, it seems as though they are trying to make it controversial without being to obvious, Trying to teach a complete novice to use a shotgun can be interesting to say the least, I wouldn't however begin their training with a side by side, which is in my opinion one of the most difficult guns to shoot with. I also agree with the fact that allowing complete novices to shoot live quarry is not something that I would be comfortable with at all and imh doesn't show our sport in a totally positive light. The attitude of some of the people was totally pathetic don't they know what goes on in the real world ? The beeb has also been catious by putting this on a non mainstreem channel, not the kind of program you would watch without actually looking for it. I suppose we are a minority group and there is a lot of people who would have our sport banned given half a chance simply because something ends up dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I reckon if you want to shoot at the Estate book up soon as I would say the programmes gonna be great advertising for them. It looks like one of the few places I have seen that I would take the mrs too, I had a look at their website and it must be hammered to death, it took me about 10 minutes to load up the front page No doubt very expensive but a nice spot for a special treat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 having now seen it I reckon its actually done shooting no harm at all and shown it in a definitely positive light. Even the mouthy blonde conceeded that it was far better than factory farmed duck. As for the wounded birds, it does happen and in those circumstances I don't think you could have picked up as you went and kept safe. To take complete novices out and actually get some ducks was quite a feat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I am really interested, I wonder how much it would cost say for a few days. I bet it would be quite expensive. I would be very much interested in wild mallard or deer stalking, it seems like an exciting and honorouable way for the animal to hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev 1 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I'm lovin it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 The programme is ok.Where do they get these people from tho-they go crying their eyes out after they`ve shot something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 You would of had more chance of eating duck if you had let markio have a go.....and thats saying something!!! What a useless bunch of mofos!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 So far in both programs, someone has said something along the lines of: 'I enjoyed it' and 'Why shouldn't people enjoy hunting' Its all good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaBravo Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Roll on tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Its all good! It is all good, and those querying the choice of people seem to have missed the entire point of the programs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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