LeeinVA Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Hey gents.. About two years ago i had my handgun stolen from the office.. I kept it there as many days i was there early, or late and we did not always make it to the bank so we on occasion had a large sum of cash in the vault.. I recieved a certified letter from the Police that they had recovered my handgun.. And i must make an appointment to recover the weapon.. Rumor has it that a minor had stolen my gun and the parents are worried that i might take there child to the cleaners.. We did learn that a band of young people had indeed broken into our business.. Now, when i discovered the gun was gone i was ****** You can take anything, but not my guns.. I was more worried that this thing would have been used in a crime.. Every four months i would call the detective working this case.. Stealing a gun in the US is instant felony with jail time and fine.. I will press charges and demand that the weapon be replaced if damaged.. I have photo records and serial numbers of all my guns-Thank god Guys, if it is indeed the kid? Well, lets just say he set his own damn self up for failure.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyke Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I know you have different laws, but i find it hard to have much sympathy for you. It sounds as if you failed to secure your firearm. If I am wrong and they managed to break into your safe then then I apologise but if It was left somewhere that minors could get to then you must bear some responsibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Maybe you should have some sort of handgun safe mate ? You dont want other people having access to your guns, they can easily turn them against you How old was this "minor" ? Stealing a gun is a bad crime along with breaking in to someones business. Sounds like the kid deserves to be taken to the cleaners!! Im only 18 myself and its a joke saying how kids dont know what there doing and are too young to know better, I know I sure as hell didn't go house to house or business to business breaking into places and stealing from places. Thats just wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) sorry i will learn to read. Edited January 11, 2009 by markbivvy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I know you have different laws, but i find it hard to have much sympathy for you. It sounds as if you failed to secure your firearm.If I am wrong and they managed to break into your safe then then I apologise but if It was left somewhere that minors could get to then you must bear some responsibility No offence buddy but I do agree that when not in use firearms should be secured.I do however understand that if the break in occured whilst you were in your office with that large sum of cash on hand then you'd need it on hand straight away but from reading your post that is not the case . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 There is more to this story.. I dont just leave my guns laying about.. Lets look at it from this angle? They had to clear a chain link fence topped with barbed wire.. They broke through a service door in the back.. Broke through a locked door into the foremans office and broke through the door into my office.. Not to mention the damge to my desk getting at the valueables.. So you see nothing was in plain sight or easy to get to.. They robbed us blind but didnt get the vault.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyke Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 should have kept your gun in the vault then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 You are correct in your comment.. Bottom line is they shouldnt have taken that which never was theres to begin with, and it was secured to the point of rediculous.. I will say that i respect you blokes for your level of safety.. And Vandyke i appreciate your signature block " Support our wounded." Not enough can be done.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyke Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I suppose we just have a different attitude to security, Your country have a right to bear arms we have to fight for ours. In an ideal world we should be able to leave everything unlocked and there would be no thieving B*******. As for the sig block, If only our country could look after its troops as well as yours Glad you got your gun back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Hey Vandyke.. Many of us are concerned about the rights of people and their gun ownership, and we know how it affects other countries.. We know about England, and we are watching our boys from downunder as well.. Their rights to ownership is being threatened as we speak.. A country that takes away the rights of man to protect themselves is surly going to fail.. Look how crime explodes? Who has the guns then? The scum bags.. I do not think we are ever going to lose our rights, but i have been wrong before.. Give you gents your rights back? And all that crime business will drop.. I am an NRA member and they fight for our rights.. Benjamin Franklin one said," To give up your rights, for security provided by the Government, is a land that is sure to fail." Our second ammendment allows us to protect ourselves from enemies foriegn & domestic.. Our biggest enemy is our bloody government I do feel for you mates, but consider that many of us here know what you guys have to deal with.. Our biggest victory was that Washington D.C. cannot tell her people thay cannot own weapons.. That ruling was shot down by the supreme court.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 What pistol was it, calibre etc.. and do you have that CCW thing (i think thats iwhat its called) A real shame to lose a gun i'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Mr. libs.. Let me give you a long winded answer Just kidding.. Anyone here over 18 that is legally able to have a gun can carry in a holster, in plain view.. People with a CCW, like me, can carry concealed.. but there are rules.. No weapons on school grounds, or Police stations, or a pub.. But you can carry in a bank Doesnt make sense.. Of course the rules that apply here in Virginia only apply to the other states she borders.. And getting ripped off makes one feel violated i do not care what it is that has been taken.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Have to say I don't agree about keeping it locked up. If you don't have to legally then why should it be locked up? No use as protection (presumably it is for that purpose) if it was locked up is it!!! If my guns didn't have to be in a gun safe legally then most of them would be a in a glass fronted display cabinet so I could appreciate them without having to get into fort knox Cars kill more people in the wrong hands than guns, do you keep your car keys in a safe? Or the knives in your kitchen under lock and key? Lee, lets hope you get it back and it is in good condition! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Thanks lee, thats cleard alot up for me. And to open carry a handgun, surely you would have to be very brave, or is it differnet over there, its really good to hear about other fireamrs laws than ours. As i am sure you have already gatherd, ours are a little 'up-tight' to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I actually don't have sympathy for the ******* thief. Lock the little **** up. It's a real pet hate of mine that individuals can't have anything anymore, some little ****** will come along and rob it. If the law says it need not be in a vault then where's the problem please? I don't see where Lee has done any wrong, he was the victim in all this. Next thing we'll hear someone being told off after a house burglary because they didn't have bars on their windows? Wake up folks, it's the criminals who are the problem, have a go at them, go easy on the ordinary bloke. Rant over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Its good that is should post this on your forum.. perhaps it will dispell somethings you might have heard that are of the contrary and you blokes are certainly not shy about how you feel .. I should have locked the handgun up when i left as it put my boss in a rather interesting situation.. However, regardless the situation, that youth has just screwed himself in the worst of ways.. The average American has grown tired of walking on egg shells, and have grown tired of the drug related and gang related crimes.. I dont need to have so many guns or need to carry, but it is my right.. If parliment told you you can drive home from the office and knock back a pint in the car as you drive it might be a right not all people will consider.. That is the same here.. My wife and daughter also have a CCW, and they both carry a Bersa .380.. I feel better knowing that they are protected.. Kind of hard to carry my .454 in a purse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Makes sense to give yourself the best advantage you can over the 'bag guys' And a .454? is that a wildcat or am I just being an idiot. I take it thats quite a lot of stopping power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Yes it was.. Elmer Kieth is the founding father of the .44 Mag and at one time the .44 was the ruler of the land.. But then came Mr. Casull and chnged everything in 1957.. If you go to my profile there is a picture of my son and I.. He is holding my .454.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.454_Casull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Jesus that looks like its gonna dislocate your wrist! I doubt if you pulled that lump of metal you would have to fire it, the sight of the thing is enough to make any man **** himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 lee, you have an email from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Gotcha.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Libs.. That is a Taurus Raging Bull with 8" barrel.. The gun is ported and has a shock obsorber in the grip.. Makes a bloody racket but can be fired with one hand.. The .44 mag is much worse to shoot.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfox Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) the gun should have been more safely stowed!, edit: i just remembered your in america, taking this into account i have no sympathy for the little *******, if the law does not require for the firearm to be stowed ina proper safe, then thats changed my view, at least it wasnt just lying on the desk, id say lock the little sh*te up, if one of my m8s ever tried anything like that id freak on them how the kids got in though is a joke! they must have been SEVERELY bored Edited January 11, 2009 by dogfox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 When I went to Florida I rented a ful auto MP5, good fun, no problem, then I saw this big chuff off revolver, I'll have a go at that says I, 454 Cassull, the guy gave me the revolver, box of ammo and a hammer! When you fire the cases expand so much you have to hammer em out of the chamber. I fired the first shot and **** myself! Our Gert who was sat about 5 yards behind me on the range felt sick with the back pressure. I thought I had better fire the rest off so the yanks didnt think I wa a pof or owt (wouldn't do for a Yorkshireman that) and fired em all off at the man target. He was hit in the ankles elbows all over but no grouping worth speaking of, but Im sure it would have hurt him a lot, Oh the MP5 made some smart big holes in the head and upper torso, great fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchester Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 If that had happened here You would be the one locked up and in the poo, lucky you yanks have a different vew on gun law than England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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