Duncan.heywood Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Ive beeen looking around at differnt models looked on ebay and studied some pictures, pretty practical with the abilty to weld and fabricate and im thinking of having a go at building one. ive got an idea to use a 12 volt wiper motor from a car. got a few plans floating about in my head but just wondered if anyone one here had also made an attempt to make one and how successful it was? :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I used an old wiper motor years ago to make my rota. For the arm (only used one) I used a piece of flat aluminium that was bolted onto the motor via the threaded end. I used a pigeon decoy that had a bolt through it (crude I know) and this was bolted to the arm. The motor was attached to a steel rod by some large jubilee clips. It worked well, but I ended up buying the whole kit at the gamefair last year. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan.heywood Posted March 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 so the motor speed was ok then?? thinking of going a little bit more high techto avoid having to buy a kit!! tight i know but im pretty sure i can build a succesful rig for the fraction of the cost!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny essex Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Wiper motors work well, i have made several for friends in the past, a little heavy but reliable and most have 2 to 3 speed setting, wise to use a motor with the 8 mm nut shaft, the 6mm can snap off in a heavy wind. Use a 12 volt 17 amp hour battery for all day use . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan.heywood Posted March 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 thanks deny! i didnt know if the speeds worked out awkward for example one was to fast and the other to slow. i shall pop to my local scrap man and get me a motor in the week i have a link as well for a web site for material for the arms what do you lot think of it? http://www.directplasticsonline.co.uk/home.php?cat=4370 :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny essex Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 thanks deny! i didnt know if the speeds worked out awkward for example one was to fast and the other to slow. i shall pop to my local scrap man and get me a motor in the week i have a link as well for a web site for material for the arms what do you lot think of it? http://www.directplasticsonline.co.uk/home.php?cat=4370 :blink: the rods are cheap enough but as for their flex dependant on if you are using real birds or plastic i cant comment on, i have used rods of varying size and materials from B&Q or Homebase , they cost a little more but you can handle and do some workouts before you buy. I have made 3 section arms the lower being .5 mtr of 12mm tube then i think it was .5mtr of 8 or 9 mm which fitted nicely into the 12, then a 6 mm rod as the last section, have used steel rod and the plastic composit rod which is lighter in weight for the last section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny essex Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 If you are going to the breakers for a wiper motor to cover the possibility of its slow speed being a little too fast try getting a heater fan resistor speed controler from an old ford or similar, most are located near the heater vent under the bonnet in a perforated metal cage about 80 mm long, should cost pence but handy if needed as a cheap speed controler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 i have one with a wiper motor and one with a ford escort window motor. the window motor is the better on as the battery last longer and its lighter. i just need 4 arms for them or i could sell what i have done so far. all they need are the arms.hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan.heywood Posted March 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 i have one with a wiper motor and one with a ford escort window motor. the window motor is the better on as the battery last longer and its lighter. i just need 4 arms for them or i could sell what i have done so far. all they need are the arms.hehe been and got the parts this morning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Take pictures of your project at each stage and post them if you don't mind. It's nice to see peoples work and shows others who ain't so handy that it isn't that difficult. DennyEssex is a dab hand at making these, and is very helpful too, so pick his brains for ideas, I'm sure he'd be happy to pass on tips as you can see already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan.heywood Posted March 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Good idea Cosd i Didnt think to do that! ill get onto it though and yes id agree deny sounds like a switched on practical chap! deny are u from a mechanical background? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny essex Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Good idea Cosd i Didnt think to do that! ill get onto it though and yes id agree deny sounds like a switched on practical chap! deny are u from a mechanical background? Nope just a hands on guy, but love to make things from odds and **** if i can my first magnets were made over 5 years ago i think, had a glassfibre moulded base to house the motor, speed control and speed switch and 3 "T" spikes to hold it in ground, (Cosd has seen one on video) made several for club members and still in operation today. Good fun if you can make your own bits, save some dosh and feel you have achieved something when it works . used real birds , shell dec's with glassfibre wings, shells with foam wings and now use hypa flaps, all work on the right day. Just an added bit if you intend to use just imitation birds on your magnet i have found that 3 mtr fishing whips with the thin top sections removed work real well, almost instant arms and very light, just dont shoot them ! :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 lanber made a couple few years ago still going strong must admit i bought one from shootwarehouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poacher72 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Made 2 last year from wiper motors & odds & **** from the garage. For the arms I used a short length of box section with a 6mm rod as the carrier. The rod sits inside the box, secured by a bolt so that when you are finished, undo bolt, slide rod into box - result - smaller arms to carry about. I think I used astra wiper motors in both cases, speed was ok. Both now gathering dust as I don't have the time to get out Hope this provides useful to someone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willc Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 (edited) Just made one up from a wiper style motor off a seed drill, I was concerned about speed, but used a faulty car battery,a cell off ,only 9 volts(12V motor),Found a car interior light dimmer switch later,works to control the speed when I put 12volts into it. I made detachable arms and cradles to take dead birds, tried it for first time a couple of days ago,not many birds about, luckily me and kennym bagged two birds out of the trees early on and set it working, well pleased, definetly enhanced the decoy pattern,having some movement brought the birds in. Pic shows it before arms and paint. most expensive bit was the two core cable!, but kennym bought that,he's loaded. Edited May 2, 2009 by willc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny essex Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Well done Willc, looks good and sturdy enough to do the job nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrofurness Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 I've just built one myself, I used 3 rod rest poles the telescopic types that i found dumped on one of my permissions, a ford escort wiper motor of my dads van and the rest of the metal was in the worksop scrap bin. the big problem was decoys so me and my stepdaughter bought some foam camping matt and made a hardboard template and painted them up. I think the grand total was about 3 shillin's an sixpence, It sounds soppy but when i took it out and birds came to have a look and we got good effective shots i was pretty chuffed! I'll post some piccys soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny essex Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 I've just built one myself, I used 3 rod rest poles the telescopic types that i found dumped on one of my permissions, a ford escort wiper motor of my dads van and the rest of the metal was in the worksop scrap bin.the big problem was decoys so me and my stepdaughter bought some foam camping matt and made a hardboard template and painted them up. I think the grand total was about 3 shillin's an sixpence, It sounds soppy but when i took it out and birds came to have a look and we got good effective shots i was pretty chuffed! I'll post some piccys soon. Always a good feeling when you've made your own piece of kit and it works well in the field , nice one. I doubt your dad was as pleased when it rained and no wipers ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennym Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Well done Willc, looks good and sturdy enough to do the job nicely WILLC IS SUCH A LIAR! he passed me the tools I made it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny essex Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 WILLC IS SUCH A LIAR! he passed me the tools I made it! someone had to do the designers dirty work : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennym Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 someone had to do the designers dirty work : Ok I lied he did most of it..... but only cos he slyed of in his garage, he wanted to keep all the fun to himself........ we're a strange pair we love the engineering as much as the shooting....... dont get me started about all the strange cars we've built over the years..... ...... a pigeon decoy's kids stuff.....he's just phoned to tell me his remote controled car/pigeon decoy hybrid's already into the proto type stage, god only knows what thats gona look like.......just gotta get the **** out of my garage so I can play... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willc Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 'Robo-pigeon' is up and flapping!, its a full bodied decoy with an RC rockcrawler drive axle in the middle, low geared it turns a cam on both sides,push-pull rods drive two skeleton wings up and down,and I fixed some foam wings to these and a tail on the back. Hope to try it next time out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny essex Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 (edited) 'Robo-pigeon' is up and flapping!, its a full bodied decoy with an RC rockcrawler drive axle in the middle, low geared it turns a cam on both sides,push-pull rods drive two skeleton wings up and down,and I fixed some foam wings to these and a tail on the back. Hope to try it next time out. Sounds good enough to get itself shot ! lol Edited May 3, 2009 by deny essex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_w12345 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 'Robo-pigeon' is up and flapping!, its a full bodied decoy with an RC rockcrawler drive axle in the middle, low geared it turns a cam on both sides,push-pull rods drive two skeleton wings up and down,and I fixed some foam wings to these and a tail on the back. Hope to try it next time out. haha sounds great, share a pic of it with us if you have time please! Just made one up from a wiper style motor off a seed drill, I was concerned about speed, but used a faulty car battery,a cell off ,only 9 volts(12V motor),Found a car interior light dimmer switch later,works to control the speed when I put 12volts into it. I made detachable arms and cradles to take dead birds, tried it for first time a couple of days ago,not many birds about, luckily me and kennym bagged two birds out of the trees early on and set it working, well pleased, definetly enhanced the decoy pattern,having some movement brought the birds in. Pic shows it before arms and paint. most expensive bit was the two core cable!, but kennym bought that,he's loaded. Looks very impressive. do you know how much it cost you roughly? (including battery motor, parts etc) sometimes i consider building one but dont know how much of a saving it would be (I know you do it for the fun too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Another one resurrected! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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