JohnGalway Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) . Edited September 3, 2009 by JohnGalway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) i hav used these and i have to admit they were helpful, i used it on my aunties dog as he was a terrible puller and she asked ifi could try and train him out of it, and this was a really helpful tool, it goes on sort of like a muzzle, but the mouth is able to open more than in a muzzle, and then clips together behind the head... what they do is if the dog pulls then because you are holding a lead which is attached to the snout there head is turned inwards towards you, also good if you need to make a correction... in conjuction with commands, and such they are quite helpful, they have a good grip on the dog aswell so there is no chance of them escaping if they shake there heads about, or you pull a little to hard... you can get them on the net or in vets, and pet shops, i saw them in pets at home on saturday ... best of luck mate... ATB Mark Edited May 26, 2009 by mark_mjs93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 John, The item you are looking for is called a Halti. Like all training tools they work if used correctly, and are designed to redirect the dog. Basically when the dog pulls the Halti directs his movment into your leg and tightens the muzzel of the halter when the dog is in position the muzzel becomes loose basically rewarding him. For me this is not the best situation and I know where the movement has caused a couple of people to fall and break their wrists on over zellous dogs. However if you combine this with a pop and a turn it can be quiet effective. If you are having problems locating one let me know what size dog you are working and i will send you one as I have about 6 that have been given to me over the years, by people that could not make them work. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 just make sure you get the right one. there is a few halti items. one if as NTTF said and there is also a harness type as well. the harness stops the pulling by pulling the front legs in as the dog pulls, this in turn stops the front legs moving if the dog pulls harder. i couldn't get this type set right and didn't get on with it but i have seen the muzzle type work very well on one of the dogs over the park. this is the one i think. http://www.companyofanimals.co.uk/halti.php there is also an other type that you might like to consider that is guaranteed to stops the dog from pulling, it works by stopping the feet moving, its made, not by halti but by hilti. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 The halti was a load of tosh! The nose band kept slipping up into my dogs eyes no matter how we adjusted it. We got a Gental Leader instead and its great, a lot less fildly and keeps her to heel very well. Would 100% reccomend a gental leader, but as for the halti, its pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren m Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 The halti was a load of tosh! The nose band kept slipping up into my dogs eyes no matter how we adjusted it. We got a Gental Leader instead and its great, a lot less fildly and keeps her to heel very well. Would 100% reccomend a gental leader, but as for the halti, its pants. just been looking at these , but cant really see a difference between them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 The halti has a padded nose band that slips much more easily than the gental leader which is just a strap of nylon. It may seem odd that the padded one irritates them more, but it just slips up to the point where it touches the eyes and sends em mad trying to pull it off. ( for my lab anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traztaz Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) Don't want to sound harsh, but command, a short leash and a choke collar work wonders, as the dog pulls , snap back at it ensuring that the leash comes down over its spine, not so hard as to whip the dog and break its neck........... as the choke and leash are connected, but sharp enough to stop immediatly the pulling , a strong word of heel , followed by pulling the dog to the required position. This has allways worked for me , with dogs from pup to old frat, what say you NTF? Edited because I had a mong moment and could not remember NTF!!! Edited May 27, 2009 by Traztaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Some dogs pull, the only way to stop them is mechanical/physical. Heel just bounces off of my dog no matter what tone, whack or scream it is accompanied by! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 I'll second the gentle lead. Roxy is a puller. She is a dominant testing dog when it comes to commands. She will decide if she 'has to' or not sometimes. She's never been a great heeler. We've used choke chains (both pull from the side and double pull from the top), pinch/prong collars, various redirects, the e-collar, and the gentle lead. The e-collar works wonders of course, just putting it on her. Don't need to use it, just have it on (she is collar smart). The gentle lead is just as good. No matter how hard she pulls, she has no leverage as she's pulling with her muzzle and not her neck or chest. She doesn't like it much, but she's used to it and will leave it on and not fight it. Very effective tool. Only one caution though, never snap the gentle lead like you would a choke collar. Because the loop is around the muzzle, a sharp snap on the collar can do damage much moreso than doing that with a collar. There is no need to give a sharp snap, just a gentle pull with a voice correction. Thanks, Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 put a normal rope lead over the dogs head, and then twist the loop around some forming another loop which goes over the dogs nose...it works a treat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted May 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 (edited) . Edited September 3, 2009 by JohnGalway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 what size dog John, I've a Halti to fit my GWP I'm not using at the moment if you wanted one to try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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