jethrofurness Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Hi everyone i know this is the biggest can of worms about to be opened but........... I've possibly got the oppertunity coming up in the near future to shoot muntie's and was wondering what caliber of rifle to go for when i ask for my variation on my licence as at the minute my biggest rifle is a .222 using 50grn balistic tipped remmington rounds ( shop bought not home loads. ) If anyone can point me in the diretion of an existing thread or offer advice that would be good. Cheers Jethro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurstpol Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) I believe the minimum requirement is 22-250 it is illegal to shoot them with a lesser calibre than this Edited June 1, 2009 by hurstpol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 England and Wales For Muntjac and Chinese Water deer only- a rifle with a minimum calibre of not less than .220 inches and muzzle energy of not less than 1000 foot pounds and a bullet weight of not less than 50 grains may be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 England and WalesFor Muntjac and Chinese Water deer only- a rifle with a minimum calibre of not less than .220 inches and muzzle energy of not less than 1000 foot pounds and a bullet weight of not less than 50 grains may be used. Just one thing to add to marks response....you also need to use a soft point bullet designed for the job in hand, and not a ballistic tipped bullet designed for varminting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Just one thing to add to marks response....you also need to use a soft point bullet designed for the job in hand, and not a ballistic tipped bullet designed for varminting. You can: Rifle bullets must be either hollow nosed or soft nosed. Note: this is generally interpreted to include “ballistic tip†and other bullets designed to deform in a predictable manner http://www.thedeerinitiative.co.uk/pdf/gui...es%20170309.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 England and WalesFor Muntjac and Chinese Water deer only- a rifle with a minimum calibre of not less than .220 inches and muzzle energy of not less than 1000 foot pounds and a bullet weight of not less than 50 grains may be used. Now that surely cannot be right. I shot 6 the other night with my 0.22 rimmy at ranges from 100 - 200 yards It was a night with no wind though :yp: I just aimed 15 yards up, and a smidgin to the left to allow for the earth's rotation. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 and not a ballistic tipped bullet designed for varminting. and “ballistic tip†and other bullets designed to deform in a predictable manner are completely different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 and are completely different yep my mistake, misread the his post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 England and WalesFor Muntjac and Chinese Water deer only- a rifle with a minimum calibre of not less than .220 inches and muzzle energy of not less than 1000 foot pounds and a bullet weight of not less than 50 grains may be used. Just one thing to add to marks response....you also need to use a soft point bullet designed for the job in hand, and not a ballistic tipped bullet designed for varminting. Mark and browning are spot on, most factory soft point .222 is around the 1100 ftlbs energy level, but check first. ( manufactures web site :yp: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrofurness Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Hi all thanks for a good thought provoking response, I was thinking about a .243 as my variation as the chap i did my apprenticship with had one for deer control, but i suppose its a case of happy medium? a heavy large caliber that will anihalate the munty or smaller round ie 222 or 223 that might not be man enough/ leagal. Jethro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Hi all thanks for a good thought provoking response, I was thinking about a .243 as my variation as the chap i did my apprenticship with had one for deer control, but i suppose its a case of happy medium? a heavy large caliber that will anihalate the munty or smaller round ie 222 or 223 that might not be man enough/ leagal.Jethro The 222 and 223 will do more than enough with the right bullets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 The 222 and 223 will do more than enough with the right bullets :yp: They do the biz on Roe in Scotland and I can`t think why they won`t be good on munties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrofurness Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 You can: Rifle bullets must be either hollow nosed or soft nosed. Note: this is generally interpreted to include “ballistic tip†and other bullets designed to deform in a predictable manner http://www.thedeerinitiative.co.uk/pdf/gui...es%20170309.pdf Just been looking at the website you posted the link for, very informative and well laid out thanks for that one topshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Go for a .243. That way, in the future, you could always us it for Roe and Fallow, if the opportunity arose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) Just been looking at the website you posted the link for, very informative and well laid out thanks for that one topshot. no worries, it does have some good info and easy to read Edited June 2, 2009 by topshot_2k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Hi all thanks for a good thought provoking response, I was thinking about a .243 as my variation as the chap i did my apprenticship with had one for deer control, but i suppose its a case of happy medium? a heavy large caliber that will anihalate the munty or smaller round ie 222 or 223 that might not be man enough/ leagal.Jethro I doubt catridge damage wouldn't differ much at all with the 243, 223 or 222. It depends on what bullets you use Id go for the 243 (actually I did ) you can shoot ANY deer you might come across, and dont be fooled. Its a cracking fox round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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